[Amelia] The Level Zero Hero Chapter 49 (Removed for KU)
Added 2023-01-05 23:32:55 +0000 UTC(Removed for KU)
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@MelasD I saw your comments but it seems you are missing some important info. It is a rather common trope to have adventurers, or rather "monster exterminators", be important in society to protect people from monsters. Sure, they do side quests like gathering ingredients and meat from monster corpses to sustain themselves. But I don't remember, like ever, that Adventurer Guild was a primary source of meat. They could be main source of rare meat from high level monsters and sell it to rich nobles for money. But be main source of meat for commoners? That's the first time I hear it. There's the common image of presence of lots dangerous monsters, so the guild is needed. Sure, but it is very different from "we kill so many monsters daily that we can feed half the population with their meat". Also Hunting for food is very different occupation from slaying dangerous monsters. One aims to hunt tastier and easier meat. One needs to ensure it will not spoil by the time it is brought to town. One needs to make sure more dangerous predstors do not get attracted to the meat. Also the meat needs to be carried in some way and it is heavy. This is a completely different specialty and requires very different set of skills and Skills. Thus far, there haven't been much deviation from the common tropes and worldbuilding in this area. That's why this chapter's statistics are very odd. And Adventurer's guild didn't seem to have over 10% of population working as adventurers for them procuring tons of food daily. They had like one inn-sized building in the starter-city with a missing guildmaster and a few receptionists. How they managed thousands of adventurers in that city?
Alexey Gladkich
2023-01-06 23:44:06 +0000 UTC6hr
Captdeth
2023-01-06 06:08:04 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter.
Joshua Little
2023-01-06 01:34:08 +0000 UTCWishing Amelia the best
Melone
2023-01-06 01:29:47 +0000 UTCAdventuring is the job that is in regards to bringing back monster parts. Amelia quite literally talks about it a few times. I’m not adding or changing anything and I suggest you reread past chapters or accept that you are wrong. I am done with this conversation.
MelasD
2023-01-06 00:59:28 +0000 UTC@MelasDelta then you should make [Hunter] as a very prevalent job if they hunt down lots of monsters for food. It was not mentioned thus far. Add on top of it various jobs regarding meat preservation being common as well. For adventurers, it didn't seem like they needed or had much desire to bring back monster's corpses to sustain themselves.
Alexey Gladkich
2023-01-06 00:57:38 +0000 UTCDon’t forget the very robust economy that’s surrounding the entire adventuring industry which this story has spent 90% of the time exploring and focusing on so far. I’m genuinely confused why anyone would think this world with magic and monsters is an agrarian society honestly
MelasD
2023-01-06 00:57:27 +0000 UTCLike I genuinely don’t understand it. This is clearly not an agrarian society. This is a magical world with frequent monster attacks and an expansive institution developed against said monster attacks. Why do you keep insisting this is an agrarian society?
MelasD
2023-01-06 00:49:49 +0000 UTCLol. I know what you did there XD
Undead Writer
2023-01-06 00:47:19 +0000 UTCHe is the highest-leveled farmer in Wolfwater, not one of the highest leveled farmers around. A Level 25 farmer can still very much produce quite a bit on his own. The highest-leveled [Farmer] is nearly twice Nolan’s level. And magic exists Again, a direct quote from the chapter mentions how magical fertilizer and fertility boons exist… Lastly, why are you assuming this is an agrarian society? I keep saying it’s not. Monsters exist. Monsters can be eaten. When you have a plentiful food source from monsters, assuming this is an agrarian society seems odd to me.
MelasD
2023-01-06 00:46:38 +0000 UTCThanks for the chapter!! I hope she at least gets the farmer class, or a version of it. I think it would be so funny to see a hero farmer XD!
Undead Writer
2023-01-06 00:45:55 +0000 UTCIdk about 80-90% farmers. Villagers sure, but there are a lot of non-farming peasant jobs like blacksmith, leather worker etc
Matthew Brubacher
2023-01-06 00:43:45 +0000 UTC@MelasDelta but he's one of the highest level famers around. An average farmer would perform less. Perhaps, a population can sustain itself with 30% of farmers, still having over 30% warriors would be very problematic.
Alexey Gladkich
2023-01-06 00:39:43 +0000 UTCIt is mentioned that Nolan produces at least 3 harvests a year, can go to 6 and maybe more. At least when it comes to wheat, in real life it's only 1 harvest a year. So it's at least 3 times the harvest by a single [Farmer]. They are much more efficient than modern farms when it comes to output
Azrie
2023-01-06 00:36:29 +0000 UTCThis entire chapter was dedicated to showing that a farmer in this world— that is a magical world that isn’t earth— has literally comparable agricultural output than modern earth A direct quote from the chapter: > It wasn’t like Nolan’s farm was small. The size of his farm was the kind of farm I’d expect to be manned by half a dozen farmers. Or maybe back on Earth, a single farmer could look after it with modern equipment such as combine harvesters or a plough. > But the existence of Skills made up for the lack of technology. Like I’m not sure how I can make it more clear, but Nolan literally states he has three to six harvests of wheat a year because of Skills and magic. Wheat is only harvested once a year on earth.
MelasD
2023-01-06 00:35:26 +0000 UTCI suppose you think the farmer class and skills don't actually do anything then?
Robert Mullins
2023-01-06 00:32:35 +0000 UTC@MelasDelta in medieval era there were 80-90% farmers and only like 5% could be part of the military. Having more warriors than farmers is a rather big turn-around. They need to produce a lot more food for that to be feasible.
Alexey Gladkich
2023-01-06 00:29:52 +0000 UTCSo it's an economy that based off other civilian jobs? If there is a high yield from crops I could understand, but I still would have expected there to be more farmers than combat jobs. Anyways, thanks for taking tge time to settle my curiosity lol.
Dancingdoorknobs
2023-01-06 00:16:34 +0000 UTCI'm assuming with the kind of skills farmer's have, it takes far less manpower to grow and harvest the amount of crops and livestock needed to sustain the population. Combine that with the fact that the world is chock full of murderous (and valuable) monsters and phenomenon, it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume there is a large number of Fighters to Farmers ratio. If say 3 farmers could provide for an average village, but the woods and plains surrounding them are home to enough hostile beasts that it requires 5-10 guards to properly protect the village and fields, then you'll end up with more martial inclined folks.
Bunny Waffles
2023-01-06 00:14:54 +0000 UTCThere are, in fact, more non-combat jobs than there are combat jobs. But as Amelia explained, you’re comparing a majority of combat jobs— being an adventurer— with a single non-combat job. It wouldn’t make sense if a single non-combat job was more abundant than most of the combat jobs… Also comparing a fantasy world with an economy in killing monsters and monster attacks and dungeons to the medieval period of earth is a pretty poor comparison. I thought I made it pretty clear. But I guess I can clarify it.
MelasD
2023-01-06 00:12:14 +0000 UTCWhy would there be so few farmers in comparison to warriors? In a society you would expect far more non combat jobs than combat ones. Especially if this worlds society is similar to that of the late medieval or renaissance period,I would expect a relatively huge number of farmers, especially if there are less types. I would expect a less varied type to have far greater numbers.
Dancingdoorknobs
2023-01-06 00:08:12 +0000 UTCShe could even get a sign that says "Beware of Chicken"!
Bunny Waffles
2023-01-06 00:03:04 +0000 UTCGreat chapter, I almost hoped for Amelia to finally get a pet. Level 100 Chicken versus dragon, go!
Azrie
2023-01-05 23:43:55 +0000 UTCgood chappie
Isley
2023-01-05 23:39:26 +0000 UTC
