TRUE STORY: Iraqi man living in Canada tried dating western women, was unimpressed and is now seeking an arranged marriage (Cultural Commentary)
Added 2024-01-02 03:52:44 +0000 UTC
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Chads are not prevalent in Iraq. Popular and good-looking guys are mostly concidered honosexuals in middle East. In Islam homosexuality is forbidden and even outlaws.
Tord Pettersson
2024-07-15 05:00:13 +0000 UTCAs far as happiness and fulfilment in life, I have to say that moving from one city in America to another is the same as moving from country to country. In most ways, men and women are the same everywhere regardless of culture. If you’re looking for a partner who is more like someone from 50 years ago, you may find that elsewhere, but give them modern technology and that alone will change them.
Eric Linden
2024-03-02 12:18:08 +0000 UTCI love the idea that Victor Frankl put forth, that to balance the Statue of Liberty that we have in the US, we need a Statue of Responsibility on the West Coast. I think many modern people (women and men) want the freedom but do not want the responsibility that comes with it in order to have a harmonious social relationship. P.S. I wonder if the situation would be the same if a Western man lived and dated in the middle east?
Matt Scoggins
2024-02-20 22:36:23 +0000 UTCI agree with most of what you said. As a 35 year old man, I've also been giving up on dating and learning to be accustomed to being by myself. I don't find anything flattering about modern women (or men for that matter) because, as you pointed out, they lack even the most common forms of courtesy which people in other countries (such as Japan) take for granted and see as common sense. Sadly, the West (I live in the US) is filled with narcissistic sociopaths who only value what others can give them, and have no interest or desire to ask themselves what they can give others. It's all about me me me. It's truly horrendous, and it honestly saddens me that this is the reality I'm witnessing, which I didn't witness 10 or 15 years ago. It's almost as if there was a collective demonic possession that occurred, whose epicenter is here in the US. People avoid each other not because of Covid, but because no one trusts anyone anymore. I keep to myself because I see the ugliness that humanity has put on display. It makes me wonder if this is just a sudden change that occurred (to which I wonder what caused it) or if this is who people were all along but the laxity of social stigma against misbehaving has caused them to reveal their true selves. One can never truly know. I'm still hoping to get married someday, but I feel like around my age dating and marriage becomes more difficult to achieve, especially given the fact that I never had a girlfriend, which many women would see as a "red flag" or an "ick". Either way, I'm becoming more and more content just enjoying the fact that my brother is married and has two kids, my sister is in a relationship, and their S/O are such awesome people, so lucky them. I don't really see myself being in such a position because I'm a very reserved person and I like to keep to myself. I also don't have the time or energy to invest in trying to meet women, most of whom aren't looking for someone like me, but are instead seeking a thrill and excitement since the prospect of settling down is "boring". Such emotional immaturity is stunning to me, but it's not completely their fault: social media plays a huge role in that regard. Either way, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the things you just mentioned. It can feel like I'm going crazy thinking those things and wondering if I'm the only one who's thinking them.
Anosh Orahim
2024-01-06 19:29:03 +0000 UTCWhite women are the most ethnocentric - we really only want white men. Of course, most women prefer white men too so it’s best for nonwhites to date in their home countries. Affirmative action/DEI gives nonwhites huge benefits over whites, which is unfair bc whites get discriminated against in their own countries. Why should foreigners have the same let alone better opportunities? We don’t in their countries! Every race has the right to ethnocentrism, but it’s only whites that multiculturalism is forced on.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-01-04 12:15:35 +0000 UTCExactly what I’m talking about.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-01-04 12:11:47 +0000 UTCI fully agree with him. I’m an ethnic man living in Canada and would say this is 100% of the experience you get. Traditional Canadians are not very easy to integrate with. They tend to stay within their race. I would say that this has never been more pronounced for me than on dating. Like it’s really in your face with women ignoring/passing you. Like not always, but you will rarely see a white woman choosing a brown man that looks like a foreigner as partner. Even if he belongs here and always lived here. Like look at what type of man white women in the West settle for … facts don’t lie. Like I said there are exceptions, but not many. I don’t know if this was a well calibrated question from Alex too. Like ok maybe about a middle Eastern man, women could have suspicion about links to terrorism. But like in my case and people from India, I’m sure they get the exact identical experience(they’re not more successful in dating because India is considered a less violent region of earth). I remember an Armenian guy that I was talking to that actually looked very white. And interestingly, he didn’t had trouble meeting women like on dating apps here in the West. But he was fully Easternized. He just didn’t look as such … And I fully agree that especially Canada disappoints. Our government sells this glowing picture of opportunities for everyone on the same level. I would say it’s not. Like a brown man in the West will not have the same opportunities as his white counterpart. Like I said, I have personally found that it has never been more pronounced and to my face than in dating. On dating apps, I pretty much only match with women same ethnicity as me(and really way below my standards too). Canada is way over hyped. Like think about it for a bit. Most people want to build a fulfilling life and that includes finding a partner and have children. And get their own houses. Canada allows you to do neither these days pretty much. Like back in the 60s with a bit of work, you could do both these things comfortable on a single income too. I would say I would definitely have found life more fulfilling living here 60 years ago where doing both was possible. Ultimately what he did is a very good solution to this Western dating problem that an Easterner would have. If you can and have this option, have your family/culture arrange a marriage.
Louis
2024-01-03 00:50:50 +0000 UTCThankyou so much mr arab bro . Thanks for sharing! Thanks alex for hosting.! As a native, non native, well perceived as non native, (ok its complicated) until im spoken to and perceived as so native i don’t meet expectations The cross cultural perspective will be so interesting to me I need to take some real time to listen to. Better comment coming Later on
Peter
2024-01-02 19:58:22 +0000 UTCI've seen the Thai women married to Dutch friends completely get off the terms and conditions on which they came here. They actually destroyed the whole male friendgroup dynamic by cheating with one of the friends and trying that with others. Devils in disguise. Though I saw many of those things coming since I was almost the only one with the redpill (evobio etc) knowledge.
SamG
2024-01-02 18:57:29 +0000 UTCVancouver Bro, will you move back home or are you doing the arranged marriage in Canada? I’d caution you on bringing traditional women from other countries to the West if you don’t have a tight community in Vancouver. She may adopt bad values by interacting with the wrong women. Might be worth considering moving back home.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-01-02 11:27:44 +0000 UTCI have to add, families and friends in Canada are spread across the land like seeds in the wind. I live in Toronto and my parents were born near Yorkton, Saskatchewan. The distance between the two locations is 2,500 kilometers (1,500 miles). That is about the same distance between London, England and Kyiv, Ukraine. This dynamic weakens collectives centred around family, culture, and neighbourhoods.
Mark Bryski
2024-01-02 11:02:56 +0000 UTCFascinating. First of all, it sounds like Vancouver Bro is interacting with women who have embraced the ideology that men can’t be trusted. From what I see, women with this ideology try to hook men in the dating market into meeting dysfunctional challenges. Engaging this behaviour has a pathway either into the friend zone or a miserable situation. I believe I encounter it when a woman in the dating pool communicates to me that she is almost ready to give up on dating. When I encounter it, I now think, “Wow….what a shitty mating bid. That problem is not my property. Pass”. As I am reflecting on it, I wonder if women in general, have a dating strategy for men in general, where they stink bid the man with their mating bid to get him to invest as much as possible into her. The best mating bids I have received is a beer and steak waiting for me when I arrive at a woman’s home with my kids and a woman phoning me to let me know she wants to sleep over at my place. Dating can be a very simple process. There is a study on successful relationships, where most of the relationship partners said they knew within two dates they had the right partner. So, the trick is, getting good mating bids from the right person. Or conversely, passing on both bad mating bids and good mating bids from the wrong person. I believe Bill Wishinski said it best a while back…”My recommendation, if you can’t vet yourself yet, make yourself better….Man the women will come. It will be easy than you ever imagined. Just make yourself what they want from basics, and you’ll be having enough options that it’s easy to vet.” Last night, my six year old daughter was telling me that at the playground last summer, when women thought I wasn’t looking their way, they would stare at me. She thought they were staring at me because they like my muscles. I believe this upcoming spring, I will be close to being in the best shape ever. It will be interesting to see how that translates into options. And yes….vetting those options is important.
Mark Bryski
2024-01-02 10:31:20 +0000 UTCWe really seem to be nudging up against the limits of “Western Culture” in this article, one definition of which might be “the way we do things around here”. I’m turning 60 in a few weeks and can remember early in my childhood growing up in a somewhat homogeneous culture consisting of ‘White Aussies’ and British, Irish and Dutch diaspora in the far outer suburbs of an Australian big city. We knew almost intrinsically what was right & wrong and to use the example of the punch in the face of an innocent person, I’m damn sure we would all have restrained and maybe even dealt with the culprit then and there. Street fights nowadays appear to lack all social rules, with men and women literally trying to kill each other, as opposed to the essentially symbolic fights of years gone by. Nowadays people are often too scared to intervene in anything for fear of being seen to be ‘politically incorrect’; violently being screamed at or accused of vile acts and intentions by rabid feminists or fearing litigation for doing the ‘right thing’. This runs the full gamut from seeking to assist a woman struggling to get a stuck package free from the shopping trolley in the carpark to situations where I have been a bystander at a few motor accidents where a crowd has gathered watching a person slowly die. It is always me that has to intervene and take the lead in life support and getting help – I despair about my fellow urban citizens. My early work in Japan in the mid 1980’s was a surreal glimpse of a really homogeneous society, where far fewer police and infinitely fewer Lawyers were needed and people knew and played their social roles for better or worse and helped strangers as a matter of course. One indelible memory was going to a punk rock concert in Yokohama. The crowd was dressed in antisocial punk garb and carrying on like Westerners prior to the performance, but you could hear a pin drop as soon as the first chord was struck – That’s common courtesy and RESPECT my friends! Something I feel is sadly lacking in our individualistic culture. The dating scene seems to be a total waste of time for someone my age, with even the most basic courtesies and ‘common decency’ seemingly a thing of the past. Ghosting, shit tests, 3 days to reply to basic texts or requests etc leave me loving my time alone with my dog instead of beating myself up seeking a new partner or acquaintance in Australia. While freedom, multiculturalism, feminism, secularism and individual ‘rights’ have valuable up-sides, we have certainly lost a lot of basic humanity in the process. Where are the Visionaries laying out a more humane but still ‘free’ culture for our Western future? The American visionaries responsible for the incredible US Constitution and Bill of Rights relied on the moral framework of organized religions and sound money (Read Gold & Silver – not Fiat currencies) as a backstop to ensure social and economic cohesion and control – Without these backstops, what is our path forward my fellow humans? – It doesn’t really work in its current form without these backstops. Most dogmatic ‘visions’ result in dystopias and lots of corpses at the hands of well-meaning zealots. Shutting down rational discussion in the name of ‘woke’ superiority is absolutely not the answer – Free speech is required to flesh out a better balance between freedom, individual and group rights and responsibilities and social cohesion. This requires us to be brave enough to listen long enough to each other to identify needs and potential solutions then cautiously move in a different direction in a cooperative spirit. Our social disintegration and especially the war between the sexes and social groups / levels of privilege in the West is getting to the scary stage IMHO.
Jon Wilkinson
2024-01-02 09:55:19 +0000 UTC
