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PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Impressive woman displays 7 manipulation tactics in only 73 seconds

PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Impressive woman displays 7 manipulation tactics in only 73 seconds

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@RhodiumMaiden - Preemptive victimhood is often the tool of choice within Feminist strategy circles.

Joseph Omega

@RhodiumMaiden - Ah. An insightful observation.

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - Yes, evolution often develops very clever traits.

Joseph Omega

Yeah it really sucks and it’s just been upgraded too, but it hasn’t been improved.

RhodiumMaiden

And often they establish a narrative that will work well for whatever they may do well in advance.

RhodiumMaiden

@JO Delusion is a fundamentally feminine phenomenon, as it is ultimately schizophrenia which is disordered feminine behaviour taken to the extreme (autism being the male opposite). Too much obsession with people, both oneself & others, over reality is another way to consider it. Whereas dysfunctional autists are too focused on things at the expense of people, typically including the autist himself.

RhodiumMaiden

I agree with Alisha on the definition of negging, though it doesn’t have to contain a complimentary aspect, but it must be said in a playful, light, pleasant tone if it’s to be successfully used on people you like.

RhodiumMaiden

@E C - It's often hard to tell exactly where self-pity becomes egoistical victimhood.

Joseph Omega

@E C - OK, I won't deny it ... even though it's not true anyway. As someone once said "cocky much?"

Joseph Omega

@E C - Well, I DO try to maintain the conversational context (just so I don't sound like I'm talking to myself).

Joseph Omega

@E C - No, I don't see -- where should I be looking exactly? If you see @Peter's messages, does that mean you unblocked him?

Joseph Omega

Denial..... its not just a river in egypt is it.......

John McGuinness

This woman truely is a Piece of SHIT..... Been alone now for the past 7 years, and you know what..... seeing this clip only strengthens my resolve to remain MGTOW. IF YOU Dont have a relationship, well you can avoid all of this shit

John McGuinness

@E C - Your EXACT words from the other thread under the "High quality women don't get hit on" video (BEFORE you decided to modify it by appending a "?" to the original ".") were: "You call me an idiot, but I am insecure. You didn't even apologize, no manners." Perhaps that was a Freudian slip? I can only work with the information YOU supply to me. PS. Still, you CLEARLY have breaks during your job. I can only conclude your priorities in deciding to continue responding so consistently and persistently. PPS. Also, if you are unfamiliar with the reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip And because you "don't have the best phone" and may be unable to open the link: "In psychoanalysis, a Freudian slip, also called parapraxis, is an error in speech, memory, or physical action that occurs due to the interference of an unconscious subdued wish or internal train of thought."

Joseph Omega

@E C - It has ALWAYS has been your call to block me as well, but are you saying that as "insecure" as YOU described yourself, you are TRULY unconcerned as to how you may be regarded here on this Patreon, where you have been a continuously contributing member since 2022? Recall what I said about "lashing out" and the "self-isolation" you court resulting from your impetuous temper tantrums.

Joseph Omega

@E C - I see: You blocked @Peter as well. I didn't realize you had blocked 2 OTHER people before. As I said earlier, though you don't seem to realize it now (prior to your planned therapy of course), these actions punish YOU more than THEY (we?) are punished. And the more you do, the less I fear you may be regarded by those who are left standing after your "wars of attrition".

Joseph Omega

@Peter - Do you mean in a METAPHORICAL sense, as in "checked out of reality", or a more LITERAL one, as in quit this thread? There is no evidence yet for the latter -- I fully expect her to continue to respond until she again feels threatened enough to delete her messages.

Joseph Omega

@E C - Actually, from how I understand it, "confidence" is grounded in EVIDENCE, and its pool is built up over time with more and better "decision making", while "self-esteem" SHOULD be the FEELING you get as a result of the accumulation into this pool. The ARBITRARY generation of "self-esteem" is what I was referring to when I said that "all women are 10's" or "believe all women", or "women don't need men" are Feminist-based ASSERTIONS, and is spread by the "positive messages" women receive via "social contagion". Essentially, it is BRAVADO. Also, the assertion that "you just contradict me for the sake of it" again sounds like the typical attempt at "preemptive gaslighting" (or likely just "projection" of your own insecurities, where it is defined as "attributing one’s own unwanted thoughts or feelings to another person").

Joseph Omega

@EC seems to have left the building?

Peter

The app is in such bad shape that unfortunately concider end my pratreonship. Too sad as I love this channels content.

Tord Pettersson

@E C - So close ... SOOOO close.

Joseph Omega

@E C - Well, whenever you feel threatened, you tend to lash out immediately, then often have to recant (and delete or block) when you come to your senses again. This just seems like self flagellation to me. You really don't have all that many enemies, but for the ones you isolate with your anger.

Joseph Omega

@Peter - No magic, I indeed just type it manually every time. 😃

Joseph Omega

How do you do the @ thing Coz i type @ and don’t get a list, i have to type it manually (using app)

Peter

@Joseph Yes i guess you can say it like that “but its not my fault, ist your fault “ is I guess gaslighting as to blame. But thats rather a semantics thing But yeah the general direction is right

Peter

@Peter - In my experience gaslighting is practiced by BOTH genders, but in different ways: Men are more obvious (in keeping with their "hard power" natures), while women are more subtle (in keeping with their "soft power" natures). Perhaps this is what you are alluding too?

Joseph Omega

@E C - Sure seems as if you punish YOURSELF much more than others do you.

Joseph Omega

@E C - You realize of course that to forcedly assert "I am very humble" may contain within it the seeds of its own contradiction, right? Besides, it appears QUITE common among MANY modern women to assert all manner of HIGHLY questionable attributes, such as "all women are 10's" or "believe all women", or "women don't need men" etc. Not really pointing out anything you don't already know. "Self esteem" as an assertion seems more BRAVADO than actual CONFIDENCE.

Joseph Omega

@Alisha that is fascinating and true. Well ive seen it in movies but not irl.. It tracts also with a family member of mine. I think men are more prone to the dark triad, especially something as Innocuous as gaslighting . Women in experience deflect more, “but its not my fault “ and men are more frontal going for that hard “no” or gaslighting

Peter

@alisha that is fascinating and true. Well ive seen it in movies but not irl.. It tracts also with a family member of mine. O think men are more prone to the dark triad, especially something as Innocuous as gaslighting . Women in experience deflect more, “but its not my fault “ and men are more frontal going for that hard “no” or gaslighting

Peter

@E C - So you DON'T consider HUMILITY to be a virtue? That doesn't SOUND very Catholic.

Joseph Omega

@Alisha - Still, genetic habits may be hard to break, and PERCEPTION of persecution and weakness is everything.

Joseph Omega

@Joseph Omega that is a fair point, maybe there is a link with the tide turning. I guess it must the people with the least power who use manipulative tactics and now that things are more equal (arguably depending on which side you’re on) then the amount of manipulation from men and women is similar.

Alisha

@Alisha - Well, evolutionarilly, I would expect that the resort to non-physical manipulations such as these would be significantly more prevalent and developed among those who perceive themselves to have little other recourse (such as women and children). Maybe nowadays in the "West" the tide of gendered usage may be turning (or has turned), as what I like to call the Mariarchy (or better the Feminist-controlled Patriarchy) gains more influence and overt narrative and legislative power.

Joseph Omega

@Alisha - Oooo ... that would be a COMPLETELY different interpretation. The word apparently has many different meanings depending on who uses it, with usage distributed fairly evenly across sexes ... with varying effects on each. Though modern media often portrays WOMEN more often using the two specific examples you cited.

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden I think negging is more of a back handed compliment that is meant to confuse or stir insecurity in someone. A comment such as “you don’t look too bad for a bald guy” or “you’re not as dumb and useless as I thought you were”

Alisha

@Joseph Omega and I don’t think there are any big gender differences, I think it will be similar amounts

Alisha

I have no idea, I would say it is like IQ, with the more “delulu” people being rare, so most people are in the middle and have an average amount of delulu that isn’t super concerning but can be annoying, then you get the 1/10 who is extremely stressful to be around and then you go further and get the 1/100 who is a super high scorer on the dark triad. What do you think about the frequency?

Alisha

@Eric Linden - Whoa buddy! 😲 @E C, is this TRUE?! When I said "my intent and my greatest hope", I meant with respect to "the best research into the male mind". It was NOT my intent to lead you on! PS. I DID find it strange how this word bore such a phonetic resemblance to "necking".

Joseph Omega

The way I understand it, negging happens when a man insults a woman, and the insult makes her sexually aroused.

Eric Linden

It seems to be a justification for a woman to cheat. In divorces and breakups, women now claim emotional and financial abuse as well as physical abuse. In the expansion of abuse, a woman is trying to say all abuse is the equal. In the expansion of affairs, she is justifying the affair by saying it isn’t the same.

Eric Linden

@Alisha - If you had to gauge, in your opinion, what would you think to be the relative frequency of these practices between men and women?

Joseph Omega

I have met men who do this, I think men tend to use different manipulation tactics from women though. Sadly I have a family member like this and I have seen him being confronted by one of his ex gfs for cheating and his go to moves are to just turn away and ignore her, straight up laugh and roll his eyes when she was upset and saying “god sake man” and also lying saying things like “you had one of your exes on Snapchat so you were cheating on me first” and also “I never even said we were in a relationship”. I guess the tactic would be guilting the person into thinking they misinterpreted things or that they are at fault. It sounds similar to the women tactics but looks different sometimes. The woman in the video seems more anxiously attached but my family member is more avoidantly attached

Alisha

Agree 💯%!

Joseph Omega

We've all heard of "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned". Nor does it have vengeance like a woman set-out to salvage her reputation.

Hyperion

What an arresting display of dark feminine traits in rapid procession; brava! Until society can again decry "toxic" femininity in equal force and sway as it does masculinity, female entitlement will not be stayed.

Hyperion

Delulu word is a thing I think maximbaby on instagram coined it. Along with jesus christ on a mota bike Alas. Female empowerment ppl have the saying. Delulu is the selulu Manifest queen! Believe in. Good things you deserve it Delulu is the selulu Nadia psychology on yt famously ysaid in a inter with a cro - today every bad choice a woman makes is glamorised. Orion taraban recently had a short talk. “Making women feel good is a business “ How many coaches and influencers are literally affirming and down playing every bad choice (you chrated coz you neglected, he didnt allow you to sink into your devine feminin, to feel safe and loyal, its all them) and afforming every delulu expectation. Men its a gymbro success stick, and women this. Both are selling the snake oil feel good about yourself and like video. It gets engagement . Definitely profitable

Peter

You know for the sake of fairness and not feeding in a apartment female hating narrative. I was hoping that people would also mention men they know doing this or similar Oof! I tell you.

Peter

@Eric Linden - Could this be her counterpoint response to "emotional abuse"?

Joseph Omega

Anything. Anything to skirt accountability 🤦 i wonder if they realise what they are doing. Or it’s pathological. Atleast with doing it on purpose and consciously tou can respect the psychopathic effort and dedication

Peter

@Peter & @Alisha - I think we all know AT LEAST one. They're VERY scary. PS. I just LOVE the expression "delulu"!

Joseph Omega

Could a possible follow-up (#8) be a last-ditch THREAT to BLOCK the guy on social media in preparation for the uninterrupted retelling of her skewed narrative to all (especially his) online contacts of how she was so "emotionally abused"? Or maybe to use one of her friendzoned SIMPS to have his account HACKED and maybe DOXED? I wouldn't put it past this level of psychopath.

Joseph Omega

Have you ever heard a woman say she had an “emotional affair”?

Eric Linden

Yes, I work with a woman like this and it is exhausting 😭

Alisha

A well established victim narrative is a gift that keeps on giving! it’s a inextinguishable permanent get out of jail free card anytime you have trouble you just whip out the victim narrative it gives safety and is a powerful tool

Peter

Have you ever actually met anyone with this level of delulu mental self justication gymnastics?

Peter

Have you ever actually met anyone with this level of delulu mental self justication gymnastics?

Peter

Well in her mind i can see those things making sense. It would have been „worse“ had they had sex WITHOUT protection (feeling comfortable enough to risk starting a family with then, like if it happens i like the guy enough i can imagine a life with him) and have a long intimate bang session with him. Then a short pop in and out peek at whats behind the door, i theory isn’t that bad right? It could be so much worse This is just a tiny peek and i quickly came back Whats the big deal? 😅 Sure it could be worse. Bit taking a peek was bad enough already

Peter

One thing women are very good at is controlling the narrative in the aftermath. Public relations. Guys just try to move on. This is one reason workplace relationships are dangerous. It is also dangerous to date in your social circle. But it’s really only dangerous for men. I’ve seen it and experienced it in the workplace. The man eventually gives up and quits. The woman may continue to work there for years often bringing up how she was a victim.

Eric Linden

1. Trauma excuse 2. Downplaying 3. Gaslighting 4. Denial of personal responsibility 5. Playing the victim 6. Begging and pleading 7. Attack

Eric Linden

Also the weird baby voice and fake cry gives me the creeps. Hope this poor guy recovers xxx

Alisha

“It didn’t even last long” hahaha 🤣

Alisha

Hahaha I know right . But according to her, "it wasn't anything serious" so that makes it all okay 🙄

KZ

"We used protection!". That cracked me up.

Julian Bell

Still this app Patreon is so lousy. When this new video announced I have to backtrack Again for the latest video to look back on at 2022. We'll, atleast I feel good to have the database for all old videos to go thru as a Patreon member.

Tord Pettersson


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