What is a "tag" exactly - Plans for v0.8

One other tag I thought of is "Meet at...", opening up a new place to meet that girl. For Nora & Stephanie that might be getting invited round to their homes, Lily might invite you to "poker night", Mom might end up "working late at the office" and Alexia might either invite you round when her parents are out or go Cam-Girl early if she has also had her exhibitionist (Public?) tag set.

Magnus Carolinus

Finally, a few ideas for Tags I thought up: Submissive / Masochist - Likes being dominated and responds better to "cruel" hub scene options like being skull fucked. I can see Lily fitting this role perfectly. Dominatrix - OK, new costumes required and could open up the option of Mistress Nora punishing her naughty lab assistant at night for those people who object to the girls being the only ones taken advantage of in the game. Probably not a good option for Lily or Alexia. Having Dominatrix Nora and Submissive Stephanie (or the other way around) would make for a new set of options on a weekday afternoon in the lab. Bondage Fetish - Sort of a sub-set of submissive, but with a decision tree made up of various forms of bondage rather than dominant / violent sex acts. Cum Guzzler - Stephanie's preference taken to the next level. Bukkake - The girl wants cum sprayed all over her, not inside her... Sort of incompatible with a breeder tag, but could go well with bondage / submissive.

Magnus Carolinus

Erased - I have to say I really don't like the idea as written, as it seems to be taking things a bit too far towards being horrible towards the girls.

Magnus Carolinus

... and some thoughts on various suggestions for tags above. I like the idea of Ion's aesthetics tags, but can understand what Vren means about it being an immense amount of work to do multiple sets of pictures for every eventuality in each outfit. Breeder is probably more persuading a girl to stop taking "the pill" and then down to dumb luck and fucking her often enough so she is pregnant in the endgame sequence. Less work rendering new pictures and the dialogue changes could revolve around her wanting to be fucked properly every time she has a scene. Slave as Ion describes it is counterproductive, as the game mechanic is all to do with juggling influence vs resistance and to me absolute obedience implies zero resistance all the time. However, slave in the sense of sexual submissive could make for an interesting set of decision trees (Nora wanting to be "punished" after hours in the lab, or tied to your bed and fucked when she comes round to explain a problem.

Magnus Carolinus

Assuming I have got the "Tag" idea correct, could one option (already sort of mentioned) be to hook a couple of the girls up into a lesbian relationship to create a new tree of options for watching / taking part in FFM threesomes? Obviously you would have to set the same tag on 2 girls before it would work, but that would create multiple play-through options so as to explore the different combinations. The only problem I can see is justifying hooking Alexia up with anyone, or how Lily ends up 69'ing anyone other than Mom.

Magnus Carolinus

That is an oddity that possibly wants re-writing in the endgame section when reminding Mom & Liiy who's boss, is that Mom is surprised you are fucking your sister despite the fact that once Mom & Lily's influence score is high enough you are cumming in or over one of them every time the whole family watches a movie at the weekend. Or is the "shock" supposed to be that Mom didn't know Lily was banging her brother when Mom wasn't around to get a piece of the action?

Magnus Carolinus

First, to answer the question, the game was originally described as discovering a way to "influence" people. It made no mention of "enslavement". I played the early versions and really like the mechanics and concept. I became a patron in the hope that my opinion would be heard and possibly influence future versions. That's why I'm here. Now, to clarify previous posts. Possibly my intentions were misunderstood. I don't advocate removing any content from the game. I simply would like to see an OPTION to have the hero behave and speak differently. Few, if any, images would need to be re-created, after all, if someone doesn't like an image, it can be quickly clicked past. Dialogue on the other hand must be read, and that is what I would like to see an option to change. That is why I mentioned a front page choice. A completely different dialogue tree would be activated if a player wants the hero to treat the girls as 'exclusive lovers' rather than 'sluts and whores'. The original dialogue tree would still be there to select for players who want him to act the way he does now. I really don't understand why anyone would take such offence at my remarks, but if so I apologize. Perhaps it was my choice of words. btw, I also grew up with Saturday morning cartoons and don't recall Boris ever insulting Natasha :-)

Mars68

If you read Vren's posts you'll see that he is very open about lots of things. Often asking peoples opinions and taking on board comments, praise and criticism from all areas. Simply because you don't like or agree with what someone else says\writes doesn't mean they should stop. It's all valuable information and feedback for Vren.

Nope, everyone should have their own opinion. But answer this, If you hate racism, why would you go on a racist site??? I believe the artist creates the art and if you like it, support it. If you don't like it, why are you here???????????

Don Brown

I would like to see more lesbian scenes and threesome scenes or even a group orgy for the ultimate ending (I don't think I've seen all the endings so this might already be there). I think it would be cool if during the shower scenes, mom or Lily will initiate without the use of a serum at higher influence levels like the movie night scene. Also parts where mom is eating out or making out with Lily and vice versa :)

It's even simpler than that. Each specific 'tag' is going to require a set influence level and then a specific training event to apply the tag to a girl. So it won't happen accidentally in any situation.

Well, another way to look at it is this... if I am interpreting Vren's intention with the tags -- the actions you take and decisions you make with the girls will affect the "tags" soooooo if you dont choose to put her in that situation... it wont happen to her... hence... you dont like that and find it insulting and degrading .. dont make the choice to do that to her...

So basically if his opinion is different to yours, it's wrong and he should leave the site? lmao

as I said before, you're on the wrong site. If it is insulting and degrading go elsewhere.

Don Brown

Doesn't mean I want fantasy to be insulting and degrading.

Mars68

If you can't separate reality and fantasy, you're on the wrong site. I grew up watching the coyote jump off the cliff every Saturday morning, I never was tempted to try it.

Don Brown

Wonderful plans! Now embody them in reality! ( ´ ∀ `)ノ～ ♡

SexBook _____ ADULT PHOTO AND VIDEO SIGNATURES

I agree, preview pic below is pretty horrible. :S

Had a thought when I woke up this morning. I can see your conversation tree getting way out of hand with the number of permutations available. Would it be easier for you overall to put a page at or near the title screen that has a single 'personality' choice (NICE/NAUGHTY or GOOD/BAD) for the hero and each girl, then reduce the number of tags available to each girl based on the original selection? I include the hero because right now he's a selfish, cruel, bastard that I despise. His selection could be something like ROMANTIC, where he treats the girls as lovers and friends, or SLAVEMASTER where he stays the way he is now. Failing that, I would suggest the first three tag to get implemented should be 'devoted' , 'whore' , and 'sex pot' . The first for players like myself who want the girls to be exclusive to the hero, the second for players who want to see them covered with other men's sperm, and the third for players who don't care either way. As for the "public" tag, you shouldn't put the sleeping around aspect there. Exhibitionism and public nudity do not necessarily imply having sex with everybody in sight. Finally, the 'preview' pic below is horrible to me. Maybe I could see something like that for Alexis, but not for little sister. Dispose of it, Please!

Mars68

Do you even math? Isn't that 20 permutations? I don't see that happening.

Blackhalo

One other thing I would like to see out of the game would be a threesome scene with every possible combination of characters. (Alexis/Stephanie, Alexis/Nora, Alexis/Lilly, Alexis/Mom, Stephanie/Mom, Stephanie/Lilly, Nora/Lilly) Maybe the beach scene will be a good opportunity for that. You invite one girl to the beach, but when you get there, you have the option of inviting another girl along, much like Mom's movie night, where you can invite Lilly, or not.

Nice

Here's some tag ideas. Now I don't know exactly what you have intended for these, so disregard those that fall outside of scope. Also, you might consider tags that only a few of the girls have. Not every tag needs to go to every girl, as some might fit other girls better than others. (Also I don't know how to do line breaks, so this might come out as a mess)<br><br>Breeder: the girl would love nothing more than to get knocked up and be the mother of your children. <br>Slave: the girl acknowledges she has no will of her own, is your property, and is absolutely obedient to you in everything. <br>Wife: the girl considers you her husband, and herself your spouse. <br>Erased: through a great deal of conditioning, you've wiped out the girl's memories or personality, leaving them an empty shell that only fronts the person they used to be to avoid suspicion.<br>Whore: the girl literally considers herself a prostitute, and will charge for services accordingly. <br>Casual/Nonchalant (This might just be the private tag): the girl sees nothing amiss or out of the ordinary about being naked, getting fucked, or being used sexually. <br>Maid: the girl gains a huge clean streak and neatness obsession, obsessively cleans things, demurs to the master of the house, etc. <br> <br>(Aesthetic tags that might change a girl's outfits or personality demeanor. ) <br>Tomboy: the girl becomes athletic, boyish, has trouble expressing their feelings, and starts wearing things like tank tops, cargo pants, and sports shorts.<br>Goth: the girl starts wearing darker colors and gothic fashions, becomes morose and sarcastic, and might dye their hair a darker color.<br>Punk: the girl becomes extremely outgoing, very uninhibited, and develops a taste in new genres of music. They might change their hairstyle to something more trendy, dying it bright colors or getting it cut, and will wear more extreme punk fashions.

Adding depth and realism to the characters, is a huge plus. It is a bit weird still that you can't just call up any of the ladies that you are at 100 influence with, for a hook-up. In my experience they tend to get kind of pissed if you don't... But I can understand the game-play limits.

Blackhalo

Jeepers Vren, you do Patreon right. Nice to see a dev keeping the peeps involved, entertained and informed. You and DarkCookie have your shit together.

Blackhalo

Definitely agree with the idea of the girls needing a tag and not starting out as man-eating nympho's lol, I want them all for myself! :P Maybe a 'ferociously obsessive' tag that'll make them start cat-fights with each other over us. Eventually leading to smoking hot angry threesomes?

Just a thought. After playing through 120 days with mom and sis and having a number of threesomes you get to the bonus you are in the kitchen and neither on knows you are fucking the other. Maybe you should have a threesome stat. We can do so may of them.

Threetees

I agree with other comments that having tags where the girls will actually do less exhibitionism and stop screwing around with other guys would definitely be what I vote for. A tag where you could encourage the girls to have sex with the other girls would also be nice. Opening up more lesbian and/or threesome scenes. Overall I think the tags idea is really awesome for letting people adapt the game to their specific taste because everyone is into something different.

I was enjoying the game, but then I got that ending. I thought, what the hell is this.

Abscessed_Truth

Almost every fetish could be converted to a tag: exhibitionism, public sex, lesbian sex, oral, anal, risk, bondage, dom, sub, pregnancy... I think Vren is able to come up with a few more on his own. The problem is, some of the tags could be a turn-off for some, so they'd have to be optional (via some settings). Like sex with other guys vs. hero only; some players will want the former, some the latter, some won't care.

Piotr Sulecki

A future tag could be training them to squirt.

Dave

Call me possessive, jealous, or even chauvinistic, but while the Nora/Stephanie thing is fine, ( or even mom &amp; Lily doing each other ), I didn't like most of the "texting photos" and really hated Lily's 'facebook pics'. And the epilogue to the current version, with the hero actively pimping three girls out to other guys , is NOT the way I want to see the game go!

Mars68

That's definitely going to be part of the update. With the "public" tag available I can move some content over to it and make a more committed "private" girl the default behaviour.

Vren

I can kind of agree with the person above me. With public I don't really want them to be doing other guys. Being more submissive and open to threesomes and more with the other girls but I don't really want to share

Bob Bryan

Can you tone down the derogatory comments to the girls? It seems to me counter-productive to work hard at getting someone to 'love' him, only to insult/put down when she submits. I'm probably alone here, but I would also like to see more 'commitment' from the girls and less screwing any and every male around, especially from little sister Lily.

Mars68

you mean like inhibition or corruption? if so, that should affect the outfit they wear and the way they act around you or the environment. If I'm hitting the spot, then shouldn't be better to buy the clothes?

Nicolas

I have an idea how about the way that the girls are dress. can you make a tag for them to start wearing really skimpy for example the higher their influence get the shorter their skirt/pants get or another option would be wearing their underwear

Jeff