Rendering Improvements: Examples!

I prefer the new look. It's realism that's lacking in a lot of adult games.

Chissy

My god why would you ever go from honey select to this? It literally went from beautiful to fugly

Nex201

All you have to do is look at the history of support amount and number of supporters. It's all downhill. I left months ago, but keep hoping Vren brings it back to "look" and gets satisfied with "How". Vren, if game mechanics are so critical at this point, I suggest you change your patreon page banner to a set of girls from LR2!

Bitching about it.... Wow, sensitive are we. Well, we are not going to agree on this but as I said before, If we don't start speaking up then he could go off in the wrong direction thinking everything was Okay. I'm guessing you are still young, under 40 so you might not yet have learned the VALUE of speaking up when something isn't right. I'll not back down from this and only VREN THE GAME CREATOR can ease my concerns over this, but thank you for trying.

James Smith

I actually just cancelled my support for reason of graphical assets, AND the lack of narrative interest. I'm assuming you don't know any better, but the fundamental look of a game is part of the ground level, as is story. The visual style of the game doesn't look like it's going to change, and Vren is far more interested in procedural systems development than creating an interesting experience. Triple AAA games have moved away from procedural content as centerpiece in the last several years too. It provides infinite variations that aren't meaningfully different. I've only supported at the minimum level for that last 6 months anyway, I'm sure Vren won't miss my dollar- peace.

I supported Baal in creating Super Powered for his first year of Developement. But had to terminate the subscription when my children were born due to re-allocating funds to more important aspects of my life. Should a time come where I'm more financially stable I'll start supporting most, if not all, the creators I follow on this platform. As for Vren, graphics in a game should be the final step in creating a game. Graphics are easy, you can replace them, improve them, or add more without hassle. The game is far from complete, we haven't even been able to explore half of the locations that are introduced, the balance of the game needs to be adjusted, the interface needs a bit of work, and yes the models need to be improved. Vren is learning how to create models within his program and to make them expandable. He technically only has 1 model in the game right now which is being morphed and modeled into Lily, Stephanie and your mother as well as the randomly generated characters. Of course they aren't perfect. If Vren wanted to spend the next 2 months perfecting the models and making them look perfect that could be done, but then the game would need to be put on hold so instead the time is being spent on the core engine of the game and getting that built up to a point where new graphics can just be added in without hassle. This format isn't for everyone, but it's a system that works and is done in every industry. You start from the bottom and work your way up, and graphics are top-level. You don't need to like it or support it, but bitching about it doesn't help any.

TheMGA

Not just low quality...... F'n FUGLY

James Smith

well lets see, it was Nov 2017 when LR1 was finished..... No, that's long enough I think. I looked through and saw what he was using for Stephanie and just about choked and now Lily.... No, sorry. After almost a year and a half if we don't start speaking up then he's going to go off in the wrong direction thinking that everything was Okay all along. LR1 was the first game I found on Patron and I supported him all the way and I'll support him again IF he corrects this soon. How about you? I see you aren't supporting anyone on patron, will that change?

James Smith

Roll Tide

Right now all the girls use the same face. I'm 90% certain the plan is to give the main characters a more unique appearance once the game is fully fleshed out. But it's really not important at the current stage of the game.

TheMGA

what the point most people referencing is that when compared to lr1 most of the characters look like totally different people. and i'm not sure of the limitations on his new modeling software but it really does make most of the faces on the women look rather low quality.

but... but... she's totally cute in a slav kind of way! :D And I love the added custom-ability compared to LR1, of course the models were cuter, but they were Honey Select, that means custom-ability down the drain for a bit of extra cuteness, is that really wurf? To clarify I would love if some of the models were way cuter, good-looking or awesome than the current ones, but I weight the freedom the current tech gives us higher than a bit of extra good looks or cuteness :)

waffel

wait, that's Lily... the little sister from LR 1? dear god man, go soak your head, take three weeks off and then come back and redo ALL the girls. Lily, Stephanie, Nora, Alexia and Mom were BEAUTIFUL in LR 1. These new images are FUGLY and are one of the main reasons I haven't continued to support this game. Please remake all the girls to make them pretty and I'll support you again and I'm sure many others will as well. Remember, YOU like to keep it free and if WE ENJOY IT then we should support you, and we will. We did in the past and will again, but not until we enjoy it once again.

James Smith

One wonders where exactly MC (or Lily) was able to find that shirt in order to purchase it...

TextileMonster

Honestly, the first priority with rendering should be to get rid of that neck seam that's on every single person now. It's also a large gap in kneeling poses.

Thanny

Could you at one point include the option to import outfits into mc.designed_wardrobes, the_person.wardrobe and mc.business.uniforms from the XML files in /game/wardrobes? I made a mod for it using slight changes from your wardrobes_from_xml function that works just fine, but would like to see native support for this. Here is the altered function as a suggestion, after that it is just to add an action that supports the use. def import_wardrobe(wardrobe, xml_filename): # This is a rewrite of the wardrobe_from_xml function written by Vren. wardrobe = wardrobe file_path = os.path.abspath(os.path.join(config.basedir, "game")) file_path = os.path.join(file_path,"wardrobes") file_name = os.path.join(file_path, xml_filename + ".xml") if not os.path.isfile(file_name): return Wardrobe("xml_filename") #If there is no wardrobe present we return an empty wardrobe with the name of our file. wardrobe_tree = ET.parse(file_name) tree_root = wardrobe_tree.getroot() return_wardrobe = Wardrobe(tree_root.attrib["name"]) for outfit_element in tree_root.find("FullSets"): wardrobe.add_outfit(outfit_from_xml(outfit_element)) for outfit_element in tree_root.find("UnderwearSets"): wardrobe.add_underwear_set(outfit_from_xml(outfit_element)) for outfit_element in tree_root.find("OverwearSets"): wardrobe.add_overwear_set(outfit_from_xml(outfit_element)) return return_wardrobe e.g I added an action to the player's bedroom to import into mc.designed_wardrobes, an action in the Clothing Store for the_person.wardrobe and to the Office for e.g mc.business.m_uniform. Instead of having it in an action I'd rather see it be something done from the Outfit manager itself. Player's input would be along the lines of: $ xml_filename = str(renpy.input("Wardrobe to import:")) $ import_wardrobe(mc.designed_wardrobe, xml_filename) return

I second that, bring back the lr1 char looks!!

Dave

*Shakes Head* That's not it chief, I want a cuter Lily. How bout making them look as they did in Lab Rats?

Ghostly Hale

Nice! Would it make sense to use the same system on unpatterned clothes to distinguish between light and dark regions? With the current approach to tinting, turning clothes black wipes out a lot of depth and detail on the garment.

Apollo