Talking to "White" People (proof of concept)
Added 2025-01-28 14:14:42 +0000 UTCHey guys,
First and foremost I want to thank you all again for your support over the years, it's been transformative to me and my family in ways i can't comprehend sometimes.
I also want to make sure you all know and see that it hasn't all just been for fun, I've been actively trying to upgrade my creative process, my equipment, etc. I posted an image of the studio a while back and I hope you all see how having a studio has allowed me to be much more productive hence i've dropped like 5 bsides videos cause they're much easier to make now. Also my next main channel video about hoteps is being edited right in time for Black History Month.
But the biggest deal is that my growth and success is being noticed! I've had random big time celebrities sliding in my DM's to show appreciation which is wild. And this has started to open up other doors. Specifically I'm now hopefully in the process of developing a full fledged documentary. It's at the beginning stages, but conceptually it's written and worked out, I just need real producers and funding. I'm not asking for money for it btw I'm actually looking to get real investors right now.
As a product of that I had to make a proof of concept of sorts, and since you all helped make this possible I figured I'd share it with you all. It will end up on Nebula next month but it won't ever make it to YouTube, so this is the rare exclusive project!
It's only 20 minutes but it's a proof of concept that I hope to turn into a series or a full documentary film.
Love yall,
F.D
Comments
I am looking forward to watching this presentation and doing my best to listen and learn. But I also want to volunteer to be interviewed by you because I’m a white oerson at about 7 dimensions of intersections of marginality. In addition to that and I have a unique lived experience to share. (I’m a white Canadian Muslim trans woman with an Irish/Calabrese background… with a traumatic — but ultimately privileged — history of interaction with the criminal justice system in Ontario.
Audrey Billings
2025-06-12 02:13:41 +0000 UTCNot gonna lie I was staying away from this one as a white person or I guess I can now say as a Caucasian person I have a deep disdain for white folks. But all in all was a good video and got me thinking. Thank you.
Frosty.nico
2025-05-27 20:33:23 +0000 UTCYou did THIS! 🖤🖤🖤 I feel SEEN and AFFIRMED.
Andrea
2025-04-29 22:40:29 +0000 UTCThank you for this. It's a very strange issue to discuss. I’d like to share my own experience with the topic if that’s okay. I recognize that I'm coming from a place of privilege, and I'm probably going to make some mistakes, but I'm trying to be better about all this. all this to say this comment is going to be really cringey. My dad was in the US Navy, and his dad, and his dad, so that side of my family has always moved around a lot and never really set down firm roots anywhere. My mom’s family is from a Navy town in the South – the kind of family that claims to be related to “an Indian princess” but is reluctant to prod at any ancestral past further back than the 20th century for fear of the inevitable skeletons in that closet. Whenever people have gone around the table sharing their heritage percentages - Swedish, German, French, whatever - I found the question to be kind of silly. Whatever flavor of "white" I was didn't matter. I have no cultural ties to my however-many-greats grandparents or whatever Old Country they came from. All I know is they came from somewhere in western Europe and just kind of meandered ever since. In the past, I’ve said that I think of myself as a Navy brat as a substitute for ethnicity. I recognize that’s a really weird and questionable take and I’ve gotten a lot of completely justified pushback from it. But I don’t know how I would define myself otherwise. I grew up surrounded by military culture, and it defined the people and places I am connected and not connected to. The alternative is a smattering of European identities I feel utterly unattached to aside from genetics, or just “white.” That sense of disconnect, cultural jealousy, and just emptiness is huge. I admire Black people and Black culture for y’all’s perseverance and creativity. Honestly, I’m really jealous of that shared sense of community. I like “Not Like Us,” but I fully recognize that I’m part of the “they” he’s talking about. All this seems like the elephant in the room that no one is willing to address. Thank you for discussing this in a way that isn’t pure ridicule. I’m immensely thankful for your patience with us “white” folks, and deeply sorry that you have to be. We have a lot of learning and growing to do.
Tony Hoede
2025-03-07 23:11:40 +0000 UTCI joined Nebula for the both of them as well. I'd like to suggest Princess Weekes, Skip Intro, Foreign Man in a Foreign Land, and T1J are all great.
Jenifer Cruz
2025-03-07 20:09:05 +0000 UTCSo excited for you, i joined nebula for you and philosophytube only lol I need suggestions for more creators to check out
Scarlet Torres
2025-02-24 16:03:25 +0000 UTCGreat video. I also think that the reason why a lot of anti- white slurs don't really hit that hard is that they don't necessarily talk about whiteness as much as they talk about the person's social class. For example if you call someone a "cracker" you're basically just calling them poor because cracker refers to a type of old timey biscuit that was often eaten by poor people. So when you through out that slur it's basically the equivalent of saying "Look at this poor trash all they can afford to eat is crackers." TL;DR: White trash is more of a descriptor than a slur and yes the Old Southern aristocracy was just that shitty to everyone who couldn't afford a plantation.
Elder Dog
2025-02-19 16:20:00 +0000 UTCQuestion when is this hitting nebula?
Jay Ferguson
2025-02-18 17:43:01 +0000 UTCI'm very excited for the full version to drop.
Jon Blanton
2025-02-04 23:35:41 +0000 UTCOk watching on here. Anyway I hope FD sees this because I think my answer is helpful. If he asked if I'm white I would say that when I lived in "black and white" Cleveland ohio I was not white but when I moved to diverse LA I became white because that's what the cops would say. My family is 1st gen Greek immigrants btw
Mike Goulis
2025-01-31 21:08:23 +0000 UTCIs the answer because we have no reason to be honest, accountable, or self critical?
Anton Mueller
2025-01-31 18:18:26 +0000 UTCI have white completion. My father was born in Australia to my grandfather who was of Italian decent but born in Cairo, Egypt, and my grandmother who was (I think?) Greek/Slavic. My mother's side was Irish/English/German. I don't feel a claim to anything, I guess maybe because my last name is very Italian that may be something but the more I discovered about my family's past the more I realize I have no borders and I have no desire dig for any more. I want to be more than just the color of my skin but I know what I present as. I want to feel like I worked hard to get where I'm at but I know that doors were open to me that others had firmly shut. The conclusion I come to is none of this matters it's only about how to stabilize myself. That makes the question become "am I selfish or selfless?" Even then don't feel I have the agency to choose, someone will see me and push me to stabilize or off a cliff. Edit: I honestly was going to delete this because rereading it is so fucking whiney, but here we are because I absent mindedly hit enter.
Ted Simeoni
2025-01-31 15:47:36 +0000 UTCReally excited to see you do this. An idea for you to explore that you can take or leave is to look at the interface of Indigeneity and whiteness. in Australia and New Zealand we have an interesting complexity with Aboriginal and Māori folks who outwardly could very easily pass as white, but despite this they are never afforded the privilege of whiteness. For just one key stat, Aboriginal people in Australia are the most imprisoned population on the planet. Many of these Blak folks look for all the world as if they could be white, but the system still knows and treats them accordingly. The experience of many people living in Indigenous communities in Australia is to be in a third-world nation within a western, developed country. The additional insult here is that First Peoples are often also excluded from global black solidarity, unfortunately this especially in conversation people from the US. To those who haven't looked hard enough, these people are often regarded as appropriating blackness simply because they might be - but definitely aren't - viewed as white. I'm not sure, but I suspect that the preference of First Peoples down this way for "Blak", rather than "black" is in part a reaction to this rejection. As separate but no less interesting issue would pop up with the Sami and Romani/Roma/Traveller people in Europe. I know it's a ways outside your usual fare, but I just thought I'd pitch it as an interesting extra angle on what looks like a cool series. Regardless of whether you think these angles are interesting, I hope the series/doco/whatever gets off the ground! Love your work.
timinclimate
2025-01-31 09:06:56 +0000 UTCSir, I have an extremely urgent request for you, would you be able to check your DMs? I am begging you to speak on the rampant sexual abuse and trafficking of women of color in racial abuse porn like "Ghetto Gaggers"
will smith
2025-01-30 10:09:37 +0000 UTCI assume there was much more to it than focusing on the 9 to 5. Don’t feel bad about your choice, finishing a dissertation sucks.
Idnex
2025-01-30 03:18:14 +0000 UTCWow!! FD, I'm so glad to hear you're getting an opportunity like this. It's well deserved and I'm sure it'll be great! I'll be waiting patiently for it.
Elliot Pinksen
2025-01-30 01:33:07 +0000 UTCNot about the video, just the text post: you say that you want us to "see that it hasn't all just been for fun" but also like. Please do have fun lol. I sign up for people's patreons because I want them to be happy and healthy, not just productive!
Arlnoff
2025-01-29 23:13:44 +0000 UTCThis was excellent!
Zenzi Bell
2025-01-29 22:55:29 +0000 UTCThis was excellent I definitely look forward to seeing more of this documentary as it becomes a fully conceptualized idea.
Tyrone Bullock, Jr
2025-01-29 18:28:26 +0000 UTCThis is good and important. I'd like to share my perspective cause this is something I've personally thought about a lot in my life, but without any formal education on, just what I've experienced as a white person. I've had what I think is both a very common experience as well as a very uncommon one as a white person in America. I've usually described myself as a "typical european mutt" not having strong ties to much of my different ancestries. In fact the only ones I have any particular connection to are because of my maternal grandmother, who was mostly Irish and German. My family never really discussed our ancestry. I don't have access to any kind of family history beyond her parents, and basically none from my father's side of the family. I believe I come from the immigrants who just wanted to be "Americans." And in my experience this is probably the most common experience white people have with their ancestry in America. As I've gotten older I've kindled my connection to the little I do know about my family lineage, but outside of the small celebrations like holidays like St. Patricks Day and events like Octoberfest, it's not really a thing our society really encourages. Which is, admittedly, still much better than the out right disdain we all see for "non-white" heritages. Conversely, I grew up in a lower-middle class working family. While that isn't that uncommon, where I grew up was a lot more "mixed" than a lot of my white peers. I'm from Kansas City, KS. I grew up in Wyandotte County, commonly referred to by people from the more affluent parts of the area as "Crimedotte" for obviously racist reasons. One of the aspects of my life I consider myself lucky to have experienced is I went to a majority Black high school. I have had the experience of being the only white kid in a class. My first crush and first kiss were with Black Girls in my school. This doesn't mean I haven't had to do, and am constantly still doing, a lot of work unpacking my own internalized white supremacy and other shit our society bakes into us, but it gave me a perspective that helped me a lot. I know first hand what it's like to drive to the mall in the rich part of the city (Johnson County) and get followed by cops when they notice the WY on a license plate, and I also noticed how most often they would stop following once they saw a white kid driving. The culture I have a deep connection with is that Kansas City culture. And that culture is very much a mixed one, especially Black culture. Kansas City is a home to a lot of blues and jazz history, and I love that. It's home to the world's best BBQ. Kansas City is home to a lot of great art and history and culture, and a lot of that is Black at its core. I had to put in the effort to learn a lot of the history but it was all stuff I loved so it was easy to want to learn about. In the interest of full clarity on my experience, I'm marginalized in several ways that aren't racial. I'm disabled with multiple chronic disablities, I'm neurospicy in several ways, I'm both trans and queer. These have all shaped my view of the world and allowed me to better understand how the multi-axes of marginalization impact me, and thus how to better understand and relate to others in ways I'm not marginalized. There are slurs I'd throw hands over, especially as today we saw the full assault on trans rights begin in America, but I would have to call myself white. But I'm anti-white supremacy and "whiteness" because those robbed me of a lot of my own history and I've had to claw back what little I could with my bare hands. Which is why I will always do what I can to stand in solidarity and community with all marginalized people. Sorry for the long post, but as a proud child of the Emerald Isle, let me say full throated: "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!"
Pinball Witch
2025-01-29 10:56:14 +0000 UTCWell said
joshua macdonald
2025-01-29 09:21:09 +0000 UTCAs a white presenting White/Mexican mix, I deeply feel and have parts of this conversation every day. Excited to see where it goes. As to funding.... well, you're not asking, but might take some donations. I'd happily pony up
Iris Monroe
2025-01-29 01:51:06 +0000 UTCMy first comment was jokey, but in all seriousness, I would like to see "whiteness" explored as a form of pathology, something akin to a personality disorder that is inherited genetically as a predisposition and gets activated (or not) in childhood through trauma and other life experiences, including "positive" stuff like access to the sort of privileges and other socioeconomic benefits that whiteness provides. If there's anything to this idea, I think it's especially notable that even narcissism made its way into the DSM by the narcissists who wrote that horrible handbook!
DAVE
2025-01-29 01:46:31 +0000 UTCI think this is going to be dope as fuck! The premise looks like an extention of Noel Ingatiev's work on race and whiteness as a construct for power and control. I'm really looking forward to this.
RaistMajere
2025-01-29 01:11:56 +0000 UTCI'm glad I held on to my nebula passes, because I definitely want to share this with my locals
Michael Ferguson
2025-01-29 01:10:46 +0000 UTCLove your content, can't wait to watch the documentary!
FabianTheGreat
2025-01-29 00:03:00 +0000 UTCSociologically and demographically, yeah, I'm pretty damn white. GenXer raised white in a lower-middle-class household, predominantly white suburbs, and White Evangelical churches. I grew up with a lot of subtle and not so subtle racism from parents who would swear up and down they couldn't be racist, but who both worshiped Reagan (and who currently support Trump). Took a long time and a lotta work before I could start to break myself out of that mindset. Ethnically, I may or may not be white, depending on who you talk to or when you talk to them. Most of my heritage is UK and German, which is definitely "white" historically speaking; but also Irish, Ukrainian, and Jewish; and the "whiteness" of those ethnicities has varied considerably.
BatwingCandlewaxxe
2025-01-28 23:54:04 +0000 UTC💗
Enoch Porch
2025-01-28 21:56:45 +0000 UTCSomething that I've been thinking about is that white people, and I am assigning this to Euro-whites, have a long history of going out into the world, gathering up the resources, and sitting on them to prepare for some harsh winter. This basic thing is replayed over and over in white history. I think this drive has it's roots in our cave-dwelling ancestors. I say this because white people had to have spent a lot of time out of the sun in order to lose the melanin in our skin, eyes, and hair. So we at some point were just stuck in a cave or hovel or whatever, just trying to survive on whatever resources we had gathered. Because we don't have the genetic adaptations for a face being exposed to the cold, to me that indicates that we were not leaving the caves to face the harsh winters of past ice ages. Our genetic adaptation to this lifestyle was a loss of melanin in our skin, eyes, and hair. The pale skin, blue eyes, and blond hair are IMO vestiges of a caveman ancestry. And in a metaphorical sense, white society is still doing that caveman shit. Going out into the world, gathering up all the resources that we want, and bringing them back to caves to sit on that pile of riches. I think it is a fear-based way of living, where anyone who isn't from my cave is automatically my enemy. Because we live in fear, we are willing to lie, cheat, steal, be deceitful, and act dishonorably to maintain our being. This blond hair, blue eye, pale skin recessive gene being. So I guess there is a white culture. It is a culture of fear, and theft. Taking everything from other cultures and oppressing those people, because they aren't from our cave. We oppress because we're afraid of what the people who don't look like us are capable of. But we'll happily steal the art, philosophies, and the food... as long as it is inoffensive enough to our fragile palates. -A white dude who no longer lives in the cave, and enjoys being with people of the sun.
Marty Harris
2025-01-28 21:39:26 +0000 UTCI think it’s an incredible concept. With all the division in society these sincere conversations are valuable.
Chama Kamukwamba
2025-01-28 21:21:33 +0000 UTCPlease highlight the Scandinavian cultures (pedagogic assimilation) policies in codifiying whiteness. A lot of indigenous cultures get taught out through the respective nation’s bureau of education and there are tons of cultural praxis/research there. (e.g. Sámi)
Loelinverse
2025-01-28 21:10:21 +0000 UTCFD The man in the toilet in Skibidi Toilet is literally based on a Bosnian. A minority in a genocide neighborhood. Source: https://youtu.be/YCjNT9qGjh4?si=SmyZ-Yt-Cw56YXuh&t=1483
Erik Olsson (TerrorBlades)
2025-01-28 21:03:37 +0000 UTCFirst I wanna say, oh shit Noah is asian??? This is interesting in that, I would imagine it's hard for him to accept being called "white" by other people that don't know he's actually mixed. I just had a conversation with a friend of mine that's Japanese and white, and she said that when she gets called "white", she gets insulted because she feels like they're trying to "white wash" her, essentially just ignoring her asian race and heritage. These conversations you're having are great because we get a peek into the lens of the "white" experience, whether that person be "seen as white" or actually fit into what the origins whiteness was (and still is). I look forward to seeing the final edit of this. The work you're doing is just huge, beyond what I can say here. Thank you.
LissaNylon
2025-01-28 20:29:56 +0000 UTCCulture is a neutral term it is not positive or negative. The negative beliefs, behaviors and practices of white people IS culture, it's just not a good one.
Rae Esterlina
2025-01-28 20:02:01 +0000 UTCI disagree pretty hard with the concept that Whiteness is a culture. I think that Whiteness is an anti-culture: it substitutes a homogenized, anodyne, and root-less assimilation into respectable society - i.e. "not rocking the boat" - for authentic cultures that are rooted in lived experiences, trust in tradition, or even self-evolution / growth / change of culture creation. As such, I think Whiteness ONLY serves the existing power structures and ONLY serves White people when we're NOT challenging those in meaningful ways. This is why, much as you described, Whiteness makes White people a lot more miserable than we have any right to be. But I think it's for a different reason: our emotional, cultural, and psychological growth is stunted like we're like the Golden Children of a narcissistic parent: we inherit the notion that we are good because we meet with the approval of Whiteness for what makes us unique and / or inheritors of the good qualities that Whiteness (ironically) assigns to itself: industriousness, daring, originality, integrity, cooperation, willingness to sacrifice for the greater good. Then, whenever we fail to live up to Whiteness or choose to criticize it, we can be branded as both guilty of all the critiques of Whiteness (privilege, entitlement, ungrateful, domineering, wasteful, lazy, etc.) AND also self-hatred, jealousy of those more "successful", and hypocrisy for having the temerity to go against the dominant narratives of Whiteness. The perfect example of this is The Crown. The British Royals are the prime example of being asked to strip away much of what makes one human & give up control over the narrative of one's life in order to uphold the "values" or even "virtues" of Whiteness. Never have I seen such misery from people so wealthy because they see how their every move is constrained and defined for them by an artificial and fickle shame-and-pride-based system of judging their actions. The one guy who seems to come out of that looking at all like a human is Harry, who chose to renounce his station, to the extent that that was even possible, and for that he's be demonized harshly - despite what would ordinarily have been an exemplary life as an upholder of the values of the British royalty.
Charlie Meatball
2025-01-28 19:19:06 +0000 UTCIncredible work, thank you for sharing this with us 💖💖💖
Kaylee Christine
2025-01-28 19:01:16 +0000 UTCI think part of the issue comes down to the fact that for a lot of us, our culture was deliberately left behind in an effort to assimilate, and trying to get it back feels weirdly fake, like stealing valor. I'm Greek (kind of, we'll get to it), and I look mostly Greek, and once for a fundraiser at school I brought baklava. The teacher organizing the event realized I was Greek and suggested we charge more than I'd expected because of "authenticity" etc., and I had to explain that no, my Mom made it, and she's Irish. The teacher then said it still counted because she probably got the recipe from my Dad's mom and I had to explain that no, she wasn't Greek either, my dad's dad was but he didn't pass down any recipes because he didn't cook. My mom found the recipe online, and we're pretty sure this specific recipe is more Turkish than Greek. This is just one example, and I know most "white" Americans have similar stories. It's not that I don't WANT to identify with my Greek heritage, or other aspects of my heritage, but doing so feels like a lie of omission. TLDR: "Whiteness" is a cultural trap, and I appreciate any advice on how to get out of it.
Stephi Anne-with-an-E
2025-01-28 18:24:40 +0000 UTCGreat call to action at the end of the 😂. To the question you posed, my quasi-response is that my fullest understanding of my whiteness is felt when I have been misidentified. It has happened more than a few times…sometimes it is a specific person I am misidentified as, other times it is a broader misidentification (eg country of origin). In the latter instances, what stands out to me is those individuals, I believe, see me as part of their in-group (a British individual thought I was British based on some quick in-person exchanges). Those moments live rent free in my head and that feels like whiteness for me..I have the privilege to (generally) never fear the worst outcomes when misidentified, and still I feel envy too…an identity placed upon me with some degree of respect that isn’t mine is not one I will accept but I also feel/wonder if a false identity offers more than no identity at all. Great video!
Dan McGinnis
2025-01-28 18:19:19 +0000 UTCGoddd I'm so excited for this! It seems like a really incredible work. I do feel like the question of "what do we replace Whiteness with" with is an incredibly meaningful one. The problem is that, for a lot of us, there not only isn't a simple "replacement"; there's a grieving process that has to happen. Using myself as an example, my (White) family dates back to the early days of colonialism in the U.S. and, while part of my family was Irish, they were the Irish who decided that hopping in on the British bandwagon was totally cool when the British started invading. My mom's side of the family stepped comfortably into the colonial project and, as the country progressed, the Confederacy (my great-grandfather has a different story, fleeing from Germany alone as a Jewish person and immediately converting to Christian Scientist arriving in the U.S.). My family's cultural heritage is literally built around assimilation to Whiteness and, in the case of the Confederacy, trying to create a "culture" around the idea of Whiteness. So for me, I have to grapple with how the actual cultural heritage and traditions of my ancestors were systemically eradicated for the sake of Whiteness. The emptiness was something that was intentionally created. And with the idea that "Whiteness doesn't need to be replaced by anything," I genuinely don't think that's true. I think it's important for everyone to feel like a part of history, and to feel connected to broader traditions. So what do you do when the foundation of your cultural traditions (to the extent that you connect with them) are colonialism, racism, exploitation, and genocide? The answer is different for everyone. For me, I do try to learn from and be inspired by the history of White American activists who actually combatted the kind of White supremacy that comes from my direct lineage. I make an intentional break from the values that informed my ancestors, and align myself with other people and values. But this is easy for me, as someone who never felt a sense of cultural belonging in Whiteness. For other White folks who DO feel a strong sense of community and belonging within their families or their White communities, it can be hard to know how to build a positive sense of identity and belonging in the world to compensate for what is lost by letting go of Whiteness. I definitely won't say it's impossible (it's something I think about and focus on a LOT), and it's critically important work to be doing. But it's challenging as fuck, and I can see why a lot of people (ESPECIALLY BIPOC folks, who have to deal with the worst of White people bullshit) just kind of throw up their hands and say "fuck if I know, figure it out for yourselves." Kudos to F.D. for doing this work!
phil e
2025-01-28 17:53:42 +0000 UTCTo tell someone "you are the wrong kind of Caucasian" is wild 😂
Yasiel Romero
2025-01-28 17:48:39 +0000 UTCThe Witch is a great movie about early American whiteness. Scary!
Sarah McDonald
2025-01-28 17:42:07 +0000 UTCall the beloved Christmas songs are written by Jewish musicians
Sarah McDonald
2025-01-28 17:34:08 +0000 UTCFrom an artistic and educational perspective making white people reckon with the concept of whiteness and its purpose, if not for cruelty, is a very interesting concept. It'd be somewhat fascinating - although I'm not really interested in hearing their nonsense - to ask the same questions of someone like a Richard Spencer, a "why I left the left" grifter, and a good ole boy that cries watching the fireworks at Stone Mountain these same questions. How receptive and honest they'd be when answering you is a different hurdle. Now from a business perspective, I hope that Nebula and Patreon is great cuz not even the Zeus network would put up any money. Sure this isn't exactly their market but they know this'll mess up the money.
Widowless Peak
2025-01-28 17:33:38 +0000 UTCJust thinking out loud on a very 101 level, but watching this video made me think that probably the issue with "whiteness" as an identity is that it's just predicated upon being part of the group that *does* the racialized violence, disenfranchisement, and stereotyping, rather than one of the groups that receives those things. It feels so hollow and meaningless because that's the only uniting factor and the reason why so many previously non-white groups in the US suddenly became white during the 20th century. And I guess that's also maybe why so many people have ended up in neonazi spaces in the last 10 years or so—when other people are celebrated for their racial heritage, it makes you feel excluded and want to lean into your own heritage, but again, white heritage is violence and oppression. So they become violent oppressors. When the definition of your "identity" is just that you're part of the group that hurts people, how do you build something positive out of that instead? Idk if there's any real answer to a question like that, but I'll be very interested to see the full project if just 20 minutes has given me this much to chew on already. Best of luck to you finding the resources and funding you need, and thank you for doing this kind of work!
Sage
2025-01-28 17:28:14 +0000 UTCBravo. What you’ve articulated in 23 minutes, most people would struggle their entire lives to identify.
Renzo
2025-01-28 17:11:43 +0000 UTCYes! As a white girl lol I think we forgo identity and community when we play into/ indoctrinate each other into the white American frontier mentality of violence and isolation, every white nuclear family is an island, and everyone else is an enemy, specifically those that look and speak differently from you and your family. Christian purity culture coupled with colonial violence and this repressive idea of touch and not needing or being needed by anyone outside your immediate family, and also not even in your immediate family. To change this we can start by appreciating our respective culture (like you said; don’t go overboard) but I like learning about Scotland and Ireland now and rooting my ancestry, also learning the history of white women as racial terrorists in the United States. Just learn yourself. Also like, love and provide for your neighbors and root in your town/ city!
Sarah McDonald
2025-01-28 17:06:26 +0000 UTCReally hoping whiteness makes it into the DSM-6 because I could really use some effective treatment, as could everybody else. Sure, dark triad personalities are difficult, but what about the light monad? They say there's a black hole at the center of the galaxy, but nobody ever talks about what's at the center of the universe. It sucks!
DAVE
2025-01-28 17:05:06 +0000 UTCI know FD has said this before: whiteness is the erasure of identity I think it makes radicalizing white kids to nationalism or other racist shit easier. Whiteness is an infection, and I think, to some extent, reclaiming their identity is key to reducing the number of recruits the racists can get. Obviously, it can go too far, so don't do that, but roots provide fortitude that isn't possible with whiteness; to my mind whiteness is incapable of providing a real identity.
joshua macdonald
2025-01-28 16:35:43 +0000 UTCBest of luck in getting sponsorship and producing a documentary! This promo seems less nuanced than your typical work, but that's probably necessary if you're aiming at a wider audience. I think my dissatisfaction with conversations about race that center ancestry might stem largely from being so hungry for more discussions of ideas like the ones in Olúfẹ́mi Táíwò's Reconsidering Reparations. (If anyone is interested, here's a repository of some great excerpts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CDW97Mc8QWOSClzArclGn6kKH0O9EA48_0--V5cPNqk/edit?usp=sharing)
Maddi B.
2025-01-28 16:33:57 +0000 UTC🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 SO HAPPY FOR YOU!! 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
Hazel
2025-01-28 16:32:27 +0000 UTCI'm so very interested in this. Can't wait to see the full documentary.
Lady Bardic
2025-01-28 16:26:55 +0000 UTCI'm really excited about this documentary and truly hope you're able to connect with the right people to secure the institutional funding needed to bring your vision to life. I know you're not asking for support from us directly, but if at some point grassroots efforts align with your goals, they might also be a powerful tool—especially in today’s climate. We're all here, supporting your work, and eager to see it come to fruition!! Also, that ending took me out!! 😂
hjchammer802
2025-01-28 15:45:41 +0000 UTCA+, looking forward to the Whole Picture
Booboo
2025-01-28 15:36:16 +0000 UTCKeep digging FD! This topic is gold!
Mike Jallah
2025-01-28 15:28:26 +0000 UTCWhite culture is hollow, materialistic and inherently violent, I started having existential crises at the age of seven because I could not figure out why humans would choose to hurt each other. Even though for most of my life I resented or was at least made uncomfortable by being forced to participate in white culture, it still wouldn't be until late/post college that I started recognizing the ways I was successfully indoctrinated, I don't think it's possible for white people to skip having a 'pick me' phase while reckoning with their inherent racism and starting to deconstruct. From my perspective it has to do with a sense of belonging (which is perhaps what people mean with what do I replace it with?) I think what they're asking is, how can I do this while also feeling safe and comfortable, and you can't, if you want to do this work you have to really get comfortable with being uncomfortable, making a habit of pausing for ego death when your identity feels attacked. I was the weird one of the family that emoted too much, and was always saying the quiet part out loud, decades later I can tell you I still don't know how to get my family to heal their intergenerational traumas because merely bringing up the past to discuss it, is treated like an act of violence let alone getting them to be open about reflecting on their inherent racism. WASP culture has people so afraid of being uncomfortable they'd rather just pretend the suffering around them isn't happening. It... It's frustrating to say the least.
Rae Esterlina
2025-01-28 15:20:35 +0000 UTCHa that was great!
Kadeem K
2025-01-28 15:16:45 +0000 UTCFirst, hilarious. I'm delighted by this angle of investigation; it skewers the whole concept of whiteness from an angle often unexamined. Second, I'd be terrified of being interviewed. I don't think I'd have the coolness of your other interviewees in examining their position in this particular format. Why are white people so evil? "Because they see everything as their property, as stewards of the earth, or whatever rationale they've given themselves for taking your shit. Anything that stands against that is made into the new enemy, any argument otherwise is 'soft', 'liberal' or 'fascist', which is rich coming from them. I've been surrounded by it all my life and I don't really exist, as a person with some metal health challenges. I'm no use to them in generating rhetoric, my issues are orthogonal to their interests, and I don't fit into their narrative of genetic superiority. I am anathema to them."
Malovich
2025-01-28 15:08:45 +0000 UTCFound myself answering along to every question posed. Would love to see a full video/documentary.
Foxtrot
2025-01-28 15:02:34 +0000 UTCLove it
Jay Ferguson
2025-01-28 15:00:04 +0000 UTCA documentary not only explaining the caste system but challenging it... You da Man FD! Keep pushing!
LanatiRider
2025-01-28 14:59:10 +0000 UTCOver time I have learned that there is something I call the white guy test there are two variations the one I have experienced the most is dropping the n-word and seeing my reaction, this has happened too many times in different parts of the country for me to consider it a fluke. The far less frequent one is the “why are hanging out/eating with THem” with a hard th. One time a friend of mine who I had no idea just described racism and asked me if I agreed (I did not).
joshua macdonald
2025-01-28 14:54:02 +0000 UTCI can’t wait for whenever this releases
Sav
2025-01-28 14:49:05 +0000 UTCGod damn I wish I could contribute to this. Wrote a fucking dissertation on the white mindset with historical precedent going back to Greco Roman mythology and extensive focus on the traumatic effects of events like the Punic Wars, the Roman Expansion and collapses (plural), etc. Fuck me for focusing on the 9 to 5.
Casual Fox
2025-01-28 14:35:22 +0000 UTCMuch love and respect on the success, brother. And this is a BANGER subject for a video!
ThaTrail
2025-01-28 14:30:05 +0000 UTCLove your work. Keep grinding! Best wishes
Quentin Walker
2025-01-28 14:28:13 +0000 UTCBest of luck getting that funding, that sounds like a hell of a process. But incredibly exciting! Thank you for sharing the vid!
Shabcrab
2025-01-28 14:26:07 +0000 UTCWhite folks reckoning with being racialized is my favourite genre
Foreign Man in a Foreign Land
2025-01-28 14:20:31 +0000 UTCYou are always awesome FD
Rblast
2025-01-28 14:19:36 +0000 UTC
