Twitch Vs YouTube

I recently became a patron of Nerd³ and am now listening to everything from the start, but thank you to everyone! to Dan and all the other patreons, hearing dan be so happy because people believe in him made me happy because Dan has given me and alot of other people free entertainment for years now, when i heard this i imidiatly went from my $1 TIER to the $2 TIER, Thank you Dan.

Stipsyn

I might have a reason for the recent drop off. In America; school is about to start . We get a lot of summer work here and we a lazy bastards. Since quite a large portion of your audience are school age, they are probably rushing to do their work and, sadly, don't have time for your videos. If your income comes back in a few week then i guess i was right.

Dave

I've been watching Twitch streams for years and I've always felt it was cooler than Youtube. I love the unedited, live experience and the chat interaction. You can have fun with 8000 other viewers as well as with a 10 people chat. Pretty much the only benefit of Youtube for me as a viewer is at this point the permanently hosted videos, which only stay on Twitch for a limited time.

Brilliant :D

Kyan Zero The Real

I just listened to this on the way to the barber shop and thought it was really interesting. As someone on the other side, as observer, rather than creator, it's really refreshing to hear a creator like Dan share his thoughts on these two formats. It definitely seems like YouTube, as a revenue source, is on the decline and I do like catching Dan 'live' on Twitch where the reinforcement of support is much more interactive and real-time. Will definitely continue to catch as many low key streams as possible in addition to watching all videos on the main and toys channel.

Shaun Hastings

Dan, what you make definitely has worth. People like you and the stuff you put out, they like rebecca, matt, jay etc. It makes people happy and it takes their focus off of their days of whatever for those 20-ish minutes.

Wouter Stouten

The both of us, maybe? Hell, I must've watched the Space Engineers series about 10 times.

The 16th of may is my birthday and now I feel bad ahaha

Go get sponsorships we really would rather you sell out and stick around than die whilst staying "pure"

m0sifer

Please Please Please allow sponsored content on your channel! If you love the game/thing then it would be perfectly fine!

jonathan steward

Hey Dan, would you consider another GTA V challenge-type video? I'd love to see another first-person only GTA video like you did for the PS4 version video.

Twitch Prime has just been made available to subscribers of Amazon Prime Video, which is available in over 200 countries unlike Amazon Prime which is only available in a few. I'm not sure how many subscribers Prime Video has, but this should boost revenue from Twitch Prime subscribers even further.

Meh, I don't really use Twitch (mostly because of times zones, literally no one I follow streams when I'm at home), but I've upped my Patreon donation instead. Also; who seriously uses Trending on Youtube?

Dion Hale

Earballs.

Jennifer Boughton

Actually, I think your massive US ad revenue was mostly just me.

I didn't even realize Amazon had the twitch prime thing. I don't really spend much time on twitch, but I'm now subscribed with my amazon prime account.

Matthew Davis

"... my work might be worth something" - yes it is Dan. You may be egomaniacal everything-hating cynical tw@ but that's the reason why I (we) love your content and like you. And that's the reason why (or how) I found you/subbed to you at Youtube. Because you make brilliant jokes (I still laugh to this date from Bus Driver Song) and you deliver them perfectly + your work (not only videos) is great. Majority of other Youtubers could learn a thing or two from you.

NuSpirit

I very much like this audio episode. Thanks for doing it and making it public.

Zach LeBlanc

"Mummy on the Orient Express" love it Dan good job (the episode was meh but i like where your mind's at)

please do more audio posts, it's easier to listen to them in the background

But he discussed that nothing is marked as advertiser unfriendly

YourJelly

Finally listened to this, You'll always get my pound mate! :D

It would jeopardize his integrity and It may look like he has to say nice things about the company because they won't like him talking shit about them even when they might deserve it.

FoxyOwl

Do more audio please dan.

Brad

Your US Youtube side crashing is weird and ridiculous. Are you still talking to Hank Green? Has he been able to help at all? I'm happy to support you here and on Twitch. For reference, I'm in the US. I just joined Youtube Red two months ago, but I've been watching folks on there since, I don't know, at least 2010. But until you said something the last few weeks, I hadn't thought about the fact that I don't remember getting ads on your videos for at least a while before I joined Red, while I was definitely getting them on others (the uptick in unskippable long ads was part of the reason I finally gave in on Red). Beyond that - your videos still show up in my subscription box just fine and I'm certainly watching them all, and I've never gotten unsubscribed. So from this end of the US Youtube viewer equation, I don't know what to tell you. We're still here! I, for one, will follow you wherever you go. I've been loving the low-key Twitch streams, especially the last few with Rebecca. They are way more fun when I can catch them live and be in the chat, but I also watch the replays of the ones done when I've been out. At the same time, you are also a clear winner in videos saved to my favorites on Youtube, and I would miss those so much. Anyway, hope you find a mix/place/thing that gets you back to comfortable and happy.

Diane Frank

See, twitch is alright, but it doesn't work on my browser. So I would say that you should stream on Twitch and Youtube at the same time, but Twitch prohibits partnered channels from streaming on other sites, so you'd be violating their terms of service, and wouldn't be allowed to earn from them. Oh well, just means I can't watch your streams. I'd like to, but that doesn't really matter in the big picture, so I guess that just doesn't matter.

Sandwich247

<a href="http://www.strawpoll.me/13112042" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.strawpoll.me/13112042</a>

Man, lotta new commentors.

Bloojay

I'm so glad Twitch is helping out in this flood of avenue losses, really looking forward to more streams from you Dan!

SammyToesis

i used to watch this youtuber called VoV but he stopped putting content out as youtube fucked him over and he had to get a proper job

You should make a video advertising your streaming so that more people will watch and subscribe. Also you should add a link to your videos.

Narmatonia

What if you're not getting ads on your videos in the US because of all the wrestling videos on your channel? Would explain why it's a US only problem! Thought this after your tweet about US YouTube deeming wrestling isn't "advertiser friendly".

Snizzbut

I think this might be an issue from the US. Just blame Trump, everyone else does

Darythe Hill

This is more than a little disturbing, especially since YT is notorious for their lack of communication with content creators. Unfortunately I recently have cleared out or downgraded almost all my patreons due to my own financial difficulties. I will happily throw my twitch prime sub your way, though.

Josh (destofworlds)

Dan, I think it's possible to upload videos to twitch. If so, why not upload the edited plays videos to twitch as well as youtube?

Elliott Reilly

Can't you make some deal with these AAA companies where they sort of pay you and still let you run the channel as you would like?

Mike Jones

Glad we both share a hatred for James Corden...

Liam Smith

I've started to think that Youtube might start to crash a bit like a stock market. Or the middle Youtubers will be squeezed out.

I did not know it didn't renew every month... oops. Thanks for letting me know

Same. They've just kind of diminished for me too

Get an Amazon Affiliate link! I seem to remember Linus Tech Tips saying they get a significant portion of their revenue from that (like 40%)

Aaron Place

It's odd... I'm in America, and I've also noticed something: I get less ads on Youtube in general, and especially on your channel. Recently, I binge watched one of your older permadeaths, and I cannot think of a single ad popping up. Very odd indeed.

Also, I never used to watch twitch. I'd happily move over if you were to drop some youtube vids and did more on twitch.

John Garvey

YouTube's algorithm is now being run by "AI"... is that something to do with it maybe? LinusTechTips made a point recently where they purposefully made their thumbnails and titles more clickbaity because they saw their subscriber numebrs​ dropping, so they had to change things up a bit.

John Garvey

Oh god dammit Dan, now you're making me want to stop making videos and move to Twitch...

Rowan Mackenzie

I actualy prefer these audio version. Because reading is hard :)

Rowan Mackenzie

Well just go straight to the following page on twitch, no adverts there. Just people you follow. Or go directly to the channel you wanna watch

Sophie Wyllie

I love the recent twitch streams with you and Rebecca. They're so calm and nice, and you seem to genuinely enjoy it. And that's (in my opinion) when you do your best work!

Agrajag

The thing is, they only adding these to compete with Twitch. It's obvious because it's only attached to the livestream side that hardly anyone uses. It's not even a better deal, it's just a corporation trying to match another with no equivalent for the main video making side.

Nerd³

The extra twitch subscriber tier as far as I know allow you to grant these moneybags one or two extra emotes to use in chat. There might be a few settings to give them less chat restrictions than others, but that's basically it.

That happened about a month and a half ago and we took a huge hit. This problem is different and US specific (when most of the companies that pulled out were UK companies) and, as far as I can see, exclusive to my channel.

Nerd³

Does this mean he's recording this with his nips out?

Douglas Hodgson

This ad-drop from the US comes from the fact that hundreds of companies are pulling their ads from youtube, making you earn less ad-income. Also the drop in viewers may come from the proposed theory that the youtube algorithm is set to promote videos that make more money, as that would be a reasonable and measurable point-system for an algorithm to follow. Youtubers who get their videos demonetized also quickly notice that those videos get much less promoted and recommended in the youtube browser. (seeing this via the video statistics, as you're familiar with). Do mind that nobody really understands the algorithm used by youtube to promote content, and that it's just speculation. However advertisers are in fact pulling their ads from youtube in its entirety, not just non-advertiser friendly content, as I'm sure you've heard.

If you twitch stream you should record and post it to youtube as well. This means viewers who missed the stream for any reason dont miss out on content. It also means even though it would be a small amount extra it would double dip your income on one lot of work.

Samuel Hammond

I would make this post public so those who aren't supporting get a further understanding as to why it is so important. I know you've mentioned it on a number of video's but a concentrated audio stream without the distraction of a game would get the point across to those interested enough to listen. I support you on here as well as on twitch with my prime subscription but as that doesn't auto renew each month I may have missed a month, mainly due to your Wednesday evening streams not happening and your other streams of late being a hours when I'm either at work or asleep. I know things happen which means the streams can't happen but have you thought of trying to do them on other day's of the week? Or let Matt take the reigns and have another member of the Nerdcubed staff join him and Jon on a Wednesday? Not heard much from Tracey, Wot or Steve on a stream for a long while.

Daniel Marshall

Audio patreon posts are awesome, might be worth considering doing a 50/50 split of written and talking things for your regular updates.

Adam Bell

What a wonderful thing to get in my earballs

do spaced please

Jack Graham

Please do a podcast for Hustle

Sorry but I hate Twitch, I go to Twitch and instantly spammed with adverts and streams I am not interested in. Having checked why is YouTube Red available in Australia and not the UK, I still watch a lot of content on YouTube (Not the trending BS) and I actually would probably pay for it as I wouldn't mind paying not to have adverts on (It pisses me off people pay £30 or more for things like Sky Sports and they have the cheek to still spam it full of advertising and marketing BS)

Christopher Smith

I didn't realise just how much Patreon helped you (I came for the ad block amnesty), so will increase donation because damn it feels good to help someone, however little.

Wren Beith

Same here

HaphazardPanda

This is beautiful

Jaimus Tilley

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Jaimus Tilley

The YouTube tip jar stuff was replaced with Superchat on live streams, like twitch's bits but without the bit to cent conversion. <a href="https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7277005?hl=en-GB" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7277005?hl=en-GB</a> Also YouTube have 'Sponsor' system on YouTube gaming where people can pay about £3.50/month similar to a patreon <a href="https://support.google.com/youtubegaming/answer/6304294?hl=en-GB" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://support.google.com/youtubegaming/answer/6304294?hl=en-GB</a>

Shawn Lindsay

I've called YouTube and I'm confident the problem will be solved soon

Mr_Riddleman

I can't read.. should I be worried?

So much for getting some extra revision in this morning...

Reading is hard too, this has made me actually wanna listen to this post.

Azeria