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Changes to Chapter 123 (not a chapter sorry)

AG. I was going to do a lot of this via discovery but I figured this works as well. I've changed the description of Note 3 and added in a 4th note. .  

 

Note 3. Known Heretic has influenced this title and been changed in turn. This title has contributed a small amount to upgrading Known Heretic to a new level. In the other direction these notes have been made available due to the boost.

Note 4. The core functionality of fate remains unaltered. The only component that has been restricted is nebulous intentions towards the future. Short term use within the four minute window remains unaltered. For full clarity investing future fate towards a perfect cast attempt with a sideways evolution is unfortunately impacted because the innovation into the weaves is done in the future. This method for all humans was already suffering a seventy percent reduction in efficiency versus having the fate act in real time. 

Tom paused to consider the wording of the text which he presumed DEUs had caused to be included. That last line pretty much told him that him sending fate into the future was a mistake. He had been losing seventy percent of the impact by saving it up like that. Ideas of how to adjust his approach occurred to him but he would worry about that later. The GODs must have argued long and hard about what to include and it sounded like his patreon GODDESS had won.

Probably only because Known Heretic was at such a high level.

He continued reading.

As for nebulous use of fate in the future, like what was previously done to shape trials this will be heavily nerfed. However, a more concrete application of intention will get better result. An image such as ‘make it so my party can beat the trial,’ might suffer a 99.9% penalty, while defining ‘the monster to have a speed less than rank four along with significant lightning vulnerability’ might drop the penalty to only 80%. If this image is refining further the penalty might reduce to less than 50%.

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In addition, in fate points they talked about using evolution potions and fate points. It was implied that this knowledge was the whole point of him being reincarnated with his memories. I

DBuck

take your time man and stay safe. hope your doing alright

Zazlers

Hey Allan, what did your dad think of your writing? Was he supportive?

GSA

Something else I thought of is that every single one of these humans in the divine tournament that learns this method, ostensibly to HELP them, will inevitably use this outside the tournament and get punished. So, it's not actually helpful at all. Tom and others being mislead into punishment.

Cam

This doesn't really fix anything for me. Nerfing Tom's fate use and ability to use fate to address his long term planning especially after a major power up leaves a bad taste in my mouth. On top of which the manner in which it was applied is at best lazy. No warning of a potential issue with attempting to use fate in a divinitary manner despite it already being acceptable in other circumstances with no other explanation than because the Gods said so. This was handled badly

Robin Richards

This now means that building up fate for a perfect cast is nerfed, but spending fate on learning and making progress towards the next spell without fully casting it in the next 4 minutes will actually be more effective than what he was doing before.

KipBR

This is a great change, thank you so much!!

KipBR

This is also a possible clue that humanity is awfully wasteful with their Fate, and considering the Geas they most certainly are.

Arnon Parenti

I admire Dimitri and Everlyn's patience with not snatching all 4 kids a minute after they exited the Explosive Growth Gauntlet. Tom already said 500k points were enough to be on the board and I just can't see a title for a slaughtering Trial being any less than that especially for 1st time finisher in millions of races.

Arnon Parenti

The nerf is still pretty tough 30% of 1000 Is better than 60% of 100 And Tom was investing months of Fate into his skills. But as punishments go, I guess he pushed too far, especially with that oath a few hours earlier. Tom is threading the Heretic pretty thick on a very fine fabric, Corrine should have slapped him harder.

Arnon Parenti

It was just an example. I'll put the word approximately in

Allan Greenwood

My point is just that saying 70% as a flat, specific value makes it seem like the gods arbitrarily limited it in that way when they noticed people using it for such a purpose. If 'approximately' is added, it makes it so people were just using it incorrectly (which seems to be what the author is going for here), since in that case, it would be absurd for the collective value to have landed on precisely 70.00000000000 (etc).

OriksGaming

Now this title really does kill the Gaeas, DEUS won a big one with Tom's sacrifice.

Arnon Parenti

Since all Fate investments are overflowing by huge numbers I think a clear cut of 70% is better than approximation, humanity adapted to this without knowing the rules so when 100 fate was needed, they shove 4000 fate in a prayer just to make sure it hits.

Arnon Parenti

I like this a lot better. It feels like DEUS telling Tom, "Stop asking for random, nebulous shit and use it properly," which is perfectly fine. Before, it just seemed like it cut off all of the functionality in that direction and made humanity's trait about 90% less useful for him specifically, on a whim. It's still overall a negative, but there are ways he can get something out of it—and the contagious part of the title makes more sense this way, since there's potential benefit to spreading it. Planning to explain it in future chapters is all well and good, but when single chapters are released at a time, the readers don't get the benefit of the next chapter's explanation immediately and have to consider things as they're presented at any given time. You could even change it back once you get like 10+ chapters further (and do the same temporary change for RR when it releases there), since the point will be largely moot once readers aren't just stopped in place; and you'll be free to tell the story the way you wanted without temporary misunderstandings. There are necessary differences between storytelling in a serial versus a full published work, but once this section shifts to the latter, the original layout shouldn't be an issue (though I think the new version is fine long term, as well). Anyways, yeah, I'm really happy with the changes. I appreciate your willingness to listen to feedback here, Allan. Thanks! Edit: As an aside, the included note should probably say 'approximately seventy percent,' as it seems unlikely to be a precise number given that it could likely already vary based on how defined a wish was.

OriksGaming

I like this change. I was feeling confused and this clears some things up for me. He can still use it the way he was, well sort of, with some improvements and really guided support written in those title notes to him. "Someone" wants Tom to use his Fate more effectively and maybe help others to do so because the title is contagious.....

Ashley Cook

I felt like everything was perfectly clear already but I guess this kind of clarification becoming necessary isn't unusual with litrpg novels

George

Ohhhh I like this change a lot, letting his skill with fate direction impact its efficiency is very nice!

Anthony Randolph


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