The Walking Dead 2 x 9-10 | Full-Length Reaction
Added 2025-06-27 03:50:35 +0000 UTC
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And I know we had our differences on IWTV, but I'm over here watching other shows with you still, because I enjoy you, my man. I just have read all the Vampire books and have that viewpoint ingrained in my mind. The TV series is good, I loved it when I first watched it, trust me, and I'm pumped for Season 3. But I'm excited to take this journey through Walking Dead with you in real time, especially the later seasons that I didn't even see. Every other series of yours I have watched, you have finished already.
Eboe Thrasher
2025-08-05 14:17:21 +0000 UTCTo me, Shane did act up that day mainly because he was drunk, and to me he is complicated, but he is full of badness. He took a dark as hell turn and has strongly gone downhill. I would never worship Shane, and right away in episode 1 you hear the shit he is talking with Rick in the car and you get a vibe that he's a dick to women already. He thinks he is god's gift. He is the flip side of Rick. But I would equally stand up for Andrea and Lori. They are strong women, and some of the people who hero worship Shane are equally intimidated by strong women. That's how that sort of dude works. But that's the thing with this show, everyone is written as complicated, the writing is that good. Everyone is fairly deep, and anyone who is not deep but sticks around long enough becomes deeper over time. The best shows make sure to have all of their characters well-fleshed out. The show Sex Education on Netflix is one of the best written shows I've ever seen in that way. If you haven't seen it, I would say that is a great one to watch. I also would recommend Lost.
Eboe Thrasher
2025-08-05 14:14:16 +0000 UTCrick has so much empathy for shane 🥲
Kiana B.
2025-07-07 15:34:51 +0000 UTCThat is just so sad Susan
Franklin
2025-07-03 15:01:48 +0000 UTCThanks Matthew. I haven't seen it yet but it's on my list. Hopefully soon
Franklin
2025-07-03 15:00:51 +0000 UTCLove the reaction series especially the wire and been enjoying TWD. I just finished six feet under the other day and idk if u have seen it before but I would love to see u react to it, I think it’s right up ur alley of shows u like.
Matthew Arner
2025-07-03 14:56:36 +0000 UTCYes!
Susan B
2025-07-02 17:02:40 +0000 UTCFrank, thank you for bringing wisdom to this! I see young men react to this show with not only hatred for Lori, but hero-worship for Shane, and their comments are such a sad mirror of our society.
Susan B
2025-07-02 17:01:29 +0000 UTCI will never skip your “yap sessions”- your perspective and convictions are a big part of what compelled me follow you and subscribe!
Philly Therapist
2025-07-02 02:27:12 +0000 UTCPerfectly said. And you're so welcome 🫡
Franklin
2025-06-29 16:25:33 +0000 UTCAppreciate it. It's good stuff
Franklin
2025-06-29 16:24:28 +0000 UTCA rewatch is always a blessing. Especially for well written shows and movies
Franklin
2025-06-29 16:09:17 +0000 UTCGood points about Andrea and the suicide plot. So much to think about
Franklin
2025-06-29 16:08:51 +0000 UTCwell said
Franklin
2025-06-29 16:06:11 +0000 UTCYou're so right. I totally forgot that he said "Otis had no business being here" my god! And this is the interesting thing that happens when I'm reacting to shows, viewers will ask me to give a character the benefit of the doubt. And then when I advance further into the story I find out that those characters they were advocating for meant to do the nasty shit they did and have literally no regrets. So all the people that were making excuses for why Shane shot Otis, when we get to this point where Shane has come clean to the reason why he shot Otis, I'm left scratching my head. Like did all those people advocating for him skip this part? All the excuses they were making for him are basically useless when he admitted the real reason he shot Otis
Franklin
2025-06-29 16:05:21 +0000 UTCSimply Amazing
Franklin
2025-06-29 15:59:03 +0000 UTCThat is quite funny
Franklin
2025-06-29 15:58:46 +0000 UTCI like that so much. Otherwise that she could have been connected to life again
Franklin
2025-06-29 15:58:17 +0000 UTCI love how you describe rick. That's interesting to know about suicide victims attempts
Franklin
2025-06-29 15:57:20 +0000 UTCI feel you. I think I would be reluctant, but would give him a quick painless death
Franklin
2025-06-29 15:55:26 +0000 UTCFirst and foremost, the insanely long wall of text brought to us by Meg is always welcome. Ton of good shit in here. Great character analysis as well
Franklin
2025-06-29 15:54:40 +0000 UTCamen
Franklin
2025-06-29 15:50:53 +0000 UTCPreach
Franklin
2025-06-29 15:50:32 +0000 UTCHow dare they!!!! just 3?????????
Franklin
2025-06-29 15:50:22 +0000 UTCHello? 3 cookies and I'm done? What the helly
Nicole
2025-06-29 06:28:52 +0000 UTC2hr30min?? perfect length to watch and knit. 🥳
Kiana B.
2025-06-28 18:02:30 +0000 UTCit's so wild, the Shane defense. knowing the history, the circumstances that brought someone to the point of being an abuser is CONTEXT but it is never an excuse. being abusive is a choice, and you can't use a shitty childhood or mental illness or a zombie apocalypse as an excuse for hurting the people around you. it informs your choices, it doesn't make them.
Lynn Baker
2025-06-28 06:22:11 +0000 UTCI'm not sure I agree that Andrea loves Shane in a romantic way. I think she moreso admires his strength and wants to be more like him. She is definitely jealous of Lori and spitting whatever venom she thinks will hurt her the most, though. But I think the jealousy isn't about Shane, but about the perceived blessed situation Lori has. Lori has her family, her whole family, and Andrea lost everything and everyone she cared about. She is just failing to see Lori's hardship.
MegMegMegg
2025-06-28 06:21:11 +0000 UTCShane 100% mentioned the baby in front of everyone on purpose. Just like him lying, he saw it as another way to manipulate her to do as he says. If everyone knows she's pregnant, he'll have more people to back him up when she wants to do something dangerous and he says no. He wasn't wrong that she didn't need to be running after Rick in the dead of night, but the way he approaches things is always the worst. Someone else in the group would have chosen to reason with her, explain to her they can't lose her too, Carl needs her, Rick can handle himself, etc. but the difference between him and everyone else in the group is his FIRST instinct is to manipulate. As an actor, I find it super interesting how characters use tactics to achieve an objective; what tactic they typically use first, what would be their last resort, and how quickly they switch tactics can tell you so much about an individual. I guess it's more accurate to say Shane demands first, switches to manipulation quickly second, then reasons if someone doesn't bend to his will. He's such a good foil for Rick who always chooses reason and empathy first. People defending Shane will never cease to amaze me. He is just, objectively, a bad person, if you don't realize that by this point in the story you must have some issues of your own or you just haven't been paying attention. What you mentioned about people in the comments defending Shane because they see themselves reflected in him can also explain why Andrea defends him so much. She thinks they are the same, the outcasts of the group whose ideals don't fit in with everyone else's, they both want control (but she wants control over herself and he wants control over others). What she doesn't realize, of course, is that there is a darker side to him she hasn't seen that is completely unlike her. I have confidence Andrea wouldn't sexually assault someone or kill someone on her side for self-preservation. But because she thinks they are the same, she ends up defending actions that are indefensible. Loved how much discussion you had surrounding Shane this episode, super entertaining! And the thing with Lori and Andrea reminds me of a quote from One Piece that Sanji says to Usopp: "Everyone has things they can do and can't do. I'll do what you can't do and you do what I can't do." Lori isn't a fighter in the same sense as Andrea, she has different strengths. This reminds me of why I didn't like Lori as a kid, because I was more of a tomboy and hated that Lori pushed those gender norms on someone who didn't fit into them; holding onto gender norms when society has collapsed is nonsensical. Andrea is projecting her own feelings onto Beth and lashing out at Lori because she's jealous of her "easier" life. I still don't like the way Andrea handles this situation either, but I can definitely see both of their sides way more clearly now. I think they are both right in their own way, Lori is right that they shouldn't encourage a teenage girl to commit suicide by making it easier for her to, but Andrea is right that she deserves some autonomy and has a right to opt out if this world is too much for her. But what's most true is it's neither of their decision. This has been Another Insanely Long Wall of Text brought to you by Meg. (seriously, I yap too much, but I just write what I'm thinking as I watch 😭)
MegMegMegg
2025-06-28 06:10:55 +0000 UTCI personally would have killed the man instead of trying to save him. All three of them could have died. What about Lori and Carl and the baby? I appreciate anyone who thinks they would have done that for the unknown stranger. That would have not been me. I would be alive for season 2.
Mary E Crum
2025-06-28 00:36:05 +0000 UTCLoved your talks and simply all your comments and reactions to these 2 episodes. Watchng this again has indeed shed new light on some things and as you say, like many, things forgotten. As far as men and emotion....the WD does a fine job of showing just how much many men direct or regulate their emotions through action, more so than words. Yet, Rick always tries to work things out with words first and I commend his character for that. But he does reach his limit. When Shane tells Rick that he can't keep his family safe, Rick at first held it together, but later almost loses it and consider leaving Shane and rightfully so. But it is very clear that Shane is hellbent on killing Rick. When that wrench Shane throws at Rick's head breaks a window and causes a horde of walkers to start spilling out, Shane runs away and doesn't even warn Rick or help him. Everyone understandably gave Andrea flak for letting Beth attempt at suicide. The thing is, the vast majority of suicide victims that choose methods that aren't immediately lethal instantly regret the act the moment they commit to it. Some of them can't commit to the act at all just from the anticipation of pain. However, there were far better ways at getting Beth to see that living was still the better choice.
KimM
2025-06-27 20:21:12 +0000 UTCI'm with Andrea to an extent. Locking Beth in a padded room isn't going to help her get out of that dark pit –it's just holding her in stasis. She does need to find her own reasons to keep moving forward. BUT she is very young and grief-stricken. BUT suicide is often impulsive and opportunistic –I wish Andrea recognized that about her own attempt. I think Beth probably did need a shock to jolt her out of the dark for a moment but it could have been dragging her outside to feel the sun, put her hand on a horse... Something other than broken glass could have connected her to life again. I so appreciate the way you talk about Shane!
melskmelsk
2025-06-27 20:08:56 +0000 UTCI saw a comment a while ago with someone saying Shane's problem is he has a season 8 mentality in season 2 and I found that shit hilarious, despite never having seen that far myself.
Shane
2025-06-27 19:17:40 +0000 UTCthe reason why me and my husband say "KILL THE SHANE" every time we see either jon bernthal or anyone named shane - lori trying to convince rick lmfao... love this show
aura aurify
2025-06-27 17:22:20 +0000 UTCRick is one of the best and most well written men in media not even exaggerating. Showing at almost every turn how STRONG he is, physically, emotionally, and socially. He’s smart, kind, compassionate, calculated, devoted, and loyal. It’s so refreshing to hear you rant and rave about him!! The dude-bros who adore Shane for his “strength” are the same folks who think men don’t need therapy lollll. Shane is also complex! Especially in that conversation with Rick with his admission of needing Lori and Carl. But his motive of “kill and fight to protect” is vastly different from Rick’s “I’ll do what I HAVE to if it keeps my people safe” motive. He finds no joy in it. He doesn’t WANT the power but he knows he has to. Shane wants the authority. That’s the biggest difference between them. You can feel it when he says “Otis had no business being here”. He decided that Otis wasn’t fit for this world and took him out of it. Played God in a way to ensure his own survival. I know I’d probably do the same, but that line makes the sacrifice less noble and more dark. Anyway LOL love this series man
Julia Timlin
2025-06-27 15:33:46 +0000 UTCI love TWD! The good , the bad and especially the largest in-between.. This show has every aspect of human nature out in the open and I love how great it's in approaching every single person and making a point that no one is perfect, that everyone has a good side and a bad side, what makes a difference are the choices they're making. ** p.s. love the venting)) keep it up)
Apricot M
2025-06-27 14:05:38 +0000 UTCI love rewatching this with you. I never finished watching the series but there is so much that I DID watch (I think maybe I watched five seasons?!) and everything you say is reminding me of other things, and I’m just. I can’t wait to see you get to some of it. This is going to be a fun ride 😍 Lori made the right choice taking the knife. Most suicide attempts are impulsively done. Removing the knife even once makes it much less likely that Beth will complete suicide in the near future (of course, this case has mitigating Andrea circumstances). And Beth’s family’s response is also worth facilitating, because it’s not that she has to stay alive just for others. But their pain also matters to her, surely, and it’s worth letting her see it imho. Andrea says all this about suicide but she hasn’t attempted again since the CDC. So what does that tell you? I mean, does she actually regret not dying there? Then why hasn’t she gone ahead in some other way? Beth will find another way, she says, but Andrea has not done that. She’s reacting to a lack of agency that happened to her and her situation was different because Dale was about to kill himself with her, he threatened her with his own death. That’s really not the same situation as what Beth is experiencing.
Stefan and Erin S
2025-06-27 12:58:01 +0000 UTCI absolutely LOVE rewatching this show with you- there is so much nuance that you catch that I didn’t think about enough. My first times watching the show I was mostly focused on the dynamics between the women, or my own horror at living in a post-apocalyptic world. But your observations and conversations about masculinity have been amazing! TWD is a masterclass on how to portray human dynamics and the complexities of how trauma can affect humanity- and also there are zombies :)
Samantha Hercules
2025-06-27 07:59:34 +0000 UTCDuring Lori and Andrea‘s argument in the kitchen, the last dig Andrea gave Laurie was “and a boyfriend.“ Andrea loves Shane, but she also knows that Shane loves Laurie, which means in her mind she can’t have him. That’s why she spewed out all the venom towards Laurie.She and sane seem kind of cut from the same cloth.
Laura Thate
2025-06-27 06:06:38 +0000 UTCLove ur commentary about sexism both in the show and in the fandom! There’s a lot of double standards and it’s important to speak on it. Shane is such an interesting character but indefensible for sure. A lot of ppl think that if they like a character they have to defend that character or that character has to be “good” and that’s boring (to me haha). Let characters be evil it’s more fun that way. It’s fiction. Shane is a fucked up dude and it makes for wonderful tv. Loving watching you dive into this. Ironically I was also watching ur interview with a vampire series and it made me chortle to hear you mention it. Lots of abuse in that one too wooowww.
Broody Gaming
2025-06-27 05:19:20 +0000 UTCI find the pervasive thought online “men aren’t emotional” to be a real catalyst to the Shane vs. Ricks discussion. It makes men far more attracted to men like Shane who seem stoic and unfeeling unlike Rick who needs reassurance from his wife. What I always find so odd is that it is forgotten that anger and fear are emotions. That’s what it seems like Shane is made out of. It takes so much more work to be kind especially in a situation like The Walking Dead. Also I’m much too big of a scary cat to watch this show on my own so thanks for reactions!
Lindsey Kay
2025-06-27 05:18:58 +0000 UTC
