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Buffy The Vampire Slayer "Selfless" 7x5 Reaction

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Dude you're getting paid to watch TV shows, can you not manage 3-4 minutes without being distracted on your phone? Sometimes for entire scenes.

S R

Hard, hard disagree.

S R

It not made up. Its swedish but the actors were told that they didnt have to learn it perfectly because they would syncronize the scene anyways but in the end they thought that they did a good enough job pronouncing it evne if it wasnt perfect, so they kept it in anyways. Some is jibbrish but some of it I can understand. Especially from Emma.

Isabella Ljungkvist

This is the last season and you guys wanted half the season to be about Anya? Y’all tripping. I love her but the first is way more interesting.

athena77

i know im mad late but i just watched this and hes totally right... the anya arc shouldve been the first half of the season.

Bisibia

This is an episode I keep coming back to multiple times whenever I do a rewatch.

Fighter seVen'eiGht

Because she undid Ronnie the worm guy and couldn't teleport except for official business, she said in same time, same place.

AllieDoh

Season 3 Faith: We ARE the law. Buffy: No. Season 7 Buffy: I AM the law. ^My favorite "call back" in the series.^ Anya is one of my favorite characters of the verse, so I love this episode. Simply because it's centered around her, and even if I don't agree with everything, it makes me happy for that reason. Emma is a great actress so she deserved this. Spike is shit (human, vampire, and ensouled), and while I think he should've been staked so many times, I do get the point here. I understand that Anya chose to become a murderous demon, twice. I do not think that she should die for that without even talking about other options but at this point, Buffy has had enough. She's not going to sit around and wait while more murders happen. This is not teenage Buffy who doesn't see the bigger picture anymore. At the end of the day, Anya has a soul and still chose to kill. Not only that, but as a human, she took pleasure in rehashing all the horrors she committed in her past. Anya did not understand up until this point exactly how what she has done is wrong. Buffy couldn't wait around for her to figure that out, it's been years, and she hadn't.

cruzinbosco

there are some nitpicking mistakes though, but I'll sum it up to Anya wanting to be caught. She can teleport after all, so why leave the murder scene in the middle of day when people can see you.

s jaco

Oh, the language in the first flashback is made up. ^^

s jaco

Totally agree!

Stacey

I was SO glad they brought that back because neither Buffy nor Willow ever knew about Xander’s “little” lie and it bugged me for years, lol. I kinda wish they’d made a bigger deal of it but I get it, it was a long time ago and they’ve all moved on. I was just happy to see it acknowledged at all.

Andrea

Also, it kills me that you back Angel despite his past as Angelus, but refuse to see ensouled Spike as different than Demon!Spike.

AllieDoh

I think the issue with Anya is pretty much the same as Angel and Spike, except she chose to be a demon whereas they didn't get a choice. Angel and Spike with souls are NOT the killers they were. The same way Human Anya didn't appear to be the killer she was as a demon. That's why, for the past 7 seasons (3 for Spike, 4 for Anya), as long as they didn't/couldn't kill, they get a pass. And when they're actively trying to do good to make up for their past, it's different. But Anya (who, let's be honest, has killed more people in her time than Angel and Spike combined, probably in that one scene where she caused a full rebellion) CHOSE to return to being a demon. CHOSE to murder 12 people (13 including the casualty in the woods because she carelessly let the spider demon go) and then declared "they got what they deserved", after her close call with Ronnie the worm guy earlier in the season... Buffy can't just let that slide. In a lot of ways, Anya is worse than a vampire. She (even as a demon) has a soul, shown by her remorse and ability to realize she's done wrong in this episode. Which means she had a soul on her first go around too, and she killed with that soul, as well as what she did to Buffy in The Wish and the fact she was willing to let vamp willow massacre the entire bronze in Dopplegangland to get her powers back. And even since, she's often looked back on her times as a vengeance demon with pride and fondness. We see her choose this life time and time again. And the only time she ever chose to face those consequences was in THIS episode. The rest of the time, she was judging everyone, but she went fully unchecked. It's not like she hasn't had the same amount of chances Spike and Angel have had. But she crossed a line. It's not a nice thing, but Buffy's first reaction being that she needs to die was accurate for the slayer. Of all the times we've seen a scoobie toe the line, Anya is BY FAR the most culpable. Spike and Angelus were monsters without souls. Anya was a monster WITH a soul. And Willow... well, I don't think any of us can judge her for Warren and Rack. And after that, when she went too far, Buffy was gearing up to try and stop her. If she killed one innocent person, Buffy would have had no choice. Anya killed 13 for a cruel prank.

AllieDoh

Spike and angel was turned by a vampiere, not by choice, but anya choose to Become a demon, So it is a bit different. Andanya as a demon is dangerous while spike with a chip was not. And Buffy killed angel, so she would have to kill anya if anya stayed a demon.

Mariella Nilsson

Anyone else still pissed that Xander STILL didn’t fess up to not telling Buffy Willow’s REAL message in Season 2? “That was different.” Yeah, right Xander. Cause it wasn’t somebody YOU loved. Buffy’s 100% right in this scene. Beautifully written

Billy

Hmm ... so did she love him more than she loved Dawn as well? lol

Tia

Anya has probably killed more people than any of the shows big bads. Those wishes are not always small things. She rewrote reality in the epsiode she was introduced.

WB

Re: "Kick his ass" - "I never said that". This is a really great callback to the season 2 finale because Willow tried to get Angel's soul back but Xander made up this message from her when he met up with Buffy before the final fight.

DJ Doena

You heard it from Buffy herself “ I loved him (Angel) more than I will love anything in this life.” Period. End of sentence. Sorry Spuffy fans :(

Billy

Also, I think the key difference between this and Spike (in Buffy's eyes...and my own even though I'm not a Spike fan, tbh), is that Anya has known what it is to have a soul, and a conscience, and to have to live as a human with the knowledge of the things she's done...and she CHOSE to go back to doing it. Which would be the same thing as Angel choosing to give up his soul to become Angelus again. Or, now, Spike doing the same. And once you make that choice, the whole "it wasn't really you, it was the demon inside you" excuse goes out the window. HOWEVER, what Buffy wasn't seeing initially here is, Anya, for whatever reason, seems to still have soul and feel remorse. Which she purposely wasn't showing her friends because she wanted to die.

Andrea

I'll always love this episode for introducing me to one of my favorite writers/directors, Drew Goddard. It's a great episode, imo. Hard to believe it took them this long to give Anya her own showcase/backstory episode.

Andrea

A lot of this episode had to do with showing how Anya never really had a consistent self-identity. Everything that came along, she threw herself into and based her entire life around it. Having lost all of this and trying to re-enter vengeance with a new human sense of morality is leaving her torn. When she was insisting that the frat boys deserved what they got, my interpretation is that she was saying it to try to convince herself that it was true. Also, I fully believe that Anya wasn't telling Xander not to save her because she's still mad at him, though that may be the case. I think she said it because of how badly she wants to die. And this is my own personal headcanon, but I think Buffy recognized that on some level, and resigned to giving Anya this sort of "suicide by cop" that she was after. That's why she wasn't quipping or making jokes, she was there to essentially perform an assisted suicide

Anastasia Bartocha

Also, this season we are being shown that after all the years of struggling with her slayer life vs her regular life, Buffy seems to finally fully accept that part of her and starts to put her slayer duty to the forefront. And she was quicker to accept that eventually, it will come to this between her and Anya ever since Anya chose to become a demon again.

charmed_olive

The decision Buffy makes to kill Anya is always a shock to people so I get it. But I do love this episode. It makes sense to me. Anya killed 12 people that morning. Buffy couldn't just stand back and wait for the next time someone makes a wish. She couldn't exactly arrest her and she couldn't make Anya leave Sunnydale because then she'd just be killing people elsewhere. Maybe they should have made it more explicit in the previous episode about how much of a threat Anya was. The impression I got was Anya has killed more than Angel and Spike combined in her time as a vengeance demon. This wasn't just a one-off mass murder.

Harriet Loughnan

There are huge differences between Willow, Angelus, and Spike versus Anya. First Anya has already nearly killed once in this season (the 2nd episode, but is stopped by the Scooby gang. And she doesn't just kill she is a mass murderer in just this one setting. And while these guys were grade A jerks, what they did in no way shape or form is worth a death sentence. When Angel soul is replaced by the demons and he returns to Angelus, Buffy can't kill him. And this is just over his threats of killing (and of course his centuries of being killer in his past). But after he he kills Jenny, and Giles nearly gets himself killed, she doesn't hold back in trying to end him. She comes to this choice before the end of the season where we learn that Angel must die if the ritual is complete. Spike she stopped trying to kill once it was clear he couldn't deliberately cause pain to a human. Now of course he did try and forcibly rape Buffy. But as royally fucked up as that is (and boy howdy it is) in his mind he wasn't trying to hurt her. He has had violent relations with Dru, they have had violent sex that year, in his twisted mind she was ok with it. But he still couldn't kill or even punch her without great pain if he was actually trying to harm her. And of course, now he has a soul, so that killer he was for centuries is no longer who is in that body. He might be a bad man, he could be a killer, but its a different soul. Then you have Willow. Willow, when Buffy has any interactions with her, is when she has killed someone who has committed multiple murders, and multiple attempted murders. He's a bad man. She then goes after Jonathan and the other guy..., who were complicit in many crimes, included attempted murder. But Willow wasn't ever in any of this period in her right mind. And Buffy was very aware of it. Now Anya might be filling remorse, but she doesn't express it to anyone who actually would like to see her not kill. She's not an addict, her judgment (outside of peer pressure) isn't impaired. And one other big difference, is that Buffy is a lot more jaded about her job now then when she came to the conclusion she needed to kill Angelus.

Mark Wood

Yeah for some reason Anya wasn't treated right by the Scooby gang...I never understood why

Nyssa Rawther 🍉

the quickness with which buffy was so ready to kill anya always bothered me too. yes i know buffy is the slayer and she has to make tough calls and anya committed murder. but so have some of buffy's other friends and she wasn't that quick to try to kill them. she also didn't seem to feel much stress or sadness over having to make such a tough call and kill her friend.

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