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Movie Mindset 05 - We Must Be Doing Something Right! Altman’s America feat. Andrew Hudson

Will & Hesse are joined by Episode 1’s Andrew Hudson to discuss Robert Altman’s McCabe & Mrs. Miller (1971) and Nashville (1975). One an unconventional & drearily romantic western, one a sprawling conversational epic following 24 characters across 5 days leading up to the bicentennial in Nashville, both hilarious and haunting expressions of Altman’s vision of America in the 1970’s.

NEXT WEEK: it’s greased up 'n gritty 80’s Clint Eastwood with Sudden Impact (1983) & Tightrope (1984)

Movie Mindset 05 - We Must Be Doing Something Right! Altman’s America feat. Andrew Hudson

Comments

McCabe and Mrs Miller broke my heart and ruined my life

Lizard

McCabe ends like a lot of Altman’s films but I’m thinking here of The Player here specifically. It circles in on itself. The green vase at the end and the way it’s being moved in her hand and the motion of it is exactly like the opening when McCabe walks out of trees and how the credits float across the screen. The implication being that she had been through all of what’s just happened before and she can see the same story play out on the surface of the vase. She takes the drugs to drench the memories in colour.

J

You've sold me with that description.

Jordan Hunnicutt

I was thinking more of Epstein and Mrs. Maxwell but I think you’re more right

Robby Gross

3 Women is also fantastic. I think of it as the redneck Persona.

Rene Saller

I watched McCabe & Mrs. Miller in response to this episode and it was revelatory.

Jordan Hunnicutt

> His renown was such that his name was used for a gag in Robert Altman’s film “Nashville” in 1975. Henry Gibson, playing a veteran country singer in the movie, is unhappy with a long-haired session player named Frog, and finally exclaims: “When I ask for Pig, I want Pig. Now you get me Pig, and then we’ll be ready to record this here tune.”

Shane

There was actually a Nashville studio musician named Pig https://variety.com/2022/music/obituaries-people-news/hargus-pig-robbins-dead-nashville-country-hall-famer-bob-dylan-1235167182/

Shane

Loved this. Nashville is one of my top ten. Can you please do The Night of the Hunter, which is another?

PIPPA TANDY

Going from Altman to Cassavetes sounds like jumping from the fying pan into the fire to me

Brad Plumb

I have been obsessed with McCabe and Mrs. Millers since I saw it on a midnight movie on my local station in the 90's. It is so great to finally hear other people talking about it.

Brad Plumb

was inspired to watch Nashville before I listened to the podcast and I just have to set right a misconception about Barbara Jean’s church: she’s not at a failing church she’s at the hospital chapel/church which is why the soldier and the man whose wife is dying are there

Adam Foster

Fell a little behind, but I am so glad I am doing this, I felt physically ill at the end of Nashville. I have never had such a visceral reaction to a movie before. I really. Just seeing everyone move on without much issue just felt so real and presiciant. I’m excited to here what you have to say about these movies.

Colorado people’s press

Altman is GOATed but Andrew is being a bit charitable on Bob’s personal life/how he interacted with people. Cassavetes actually casted Lynn Carlin in FACES because he felt bad for her being Altman’s secretary and overhearing him screaming at her!

Dan

My favorite movie as a kid. It turned out to be an Altman gateway drug.

James Burkeen

most of those movie mindset episodes, so good i listened twice so far

etienne

Series is great. Fwiw, I don't think Miler gives a shit about McCabe other than as a paycheck. Source: myself knowing lots of junkie hookers.

Smallbusinessman

To be fair you probably had to smoke all day just to get a buzz off that 70s brick

I am become reply guy

Phenomenal episode, & thank you for giving me the idea to rewatch Nashville this weekend. The only thing that made my hackles rise was the statement that 3 Women is "the original Mulholland Drive," when the original 3 Women/Mulholland drive is Persona.

Allen Butt

Gotta grab a Princess Swish and listen in

Burlack Sapp

The only Altman movie I've seen is Popeye, which always struck me as really unique film, but it sounds like that's just Altman's style. Nice.

Colin C.

wills dad was way cooler than mine--my first deep, rated R movie was ConAir

carl

This pot is making you aggressive Altman

Sean Marshall

Really should have been called "Sweet Idahome"

Sean Marshall

Needs a postscript episode with Felix to discuss Altman’s Gosford Park.

Bugger Off

are you paying for it

Bob Busby

McCabe sounds similar to Trump’s grandfather’s story as a pimp in Alaska exchanging women for literal gold dust.

Scott Grabel

Infinite praise for Movie Mindset, revive Van der Pod

Yeet yourself and everyone around you

Yes, getting free bonus content is so terrible.

Alexander Fedderly

For me it’s the understanding that movies are like books in that they are a snap of a time/place/mindset and they don’t have to be “good” to enjoy watching them. The show has certainly given me a new appreciation for movies

SlowTrickle

Folks this was a great episode.

Jason Chapa

Happened to catch MASH recently on one of the streaming channels, and while the homophobic and sexist shit is stupid and annoying it still holds up pretty well, particularly the subversively skewered football game with jocks smoking blunts.

Julie Baxter

What is your complaint? You aren't paying anything more, and you're still getting your regularly scheduled slop every week. Just ignore it if you don't want to listen.

Jon

make a separate patreon tier for this content. lots of us do not care about it and don't want to pay for it. i am here to pay for the OG content, not an unrelated side project.

james

Movie BRAINset

Degrassi Knoll

I live in Nashville and I think this is one of the classics that could not be remade but revisisted. Bachelorette parties, rich developers, insane politicians. And people from NY, CA, and the Midwest moving here to pursue their country music and red state dreams. Nashville isn’t near as conservative as outsiders think we are. We were a blue island in a red state until we were recently redistricted into GOP control. P.S. a lot more Brits like country than I ever imagined. Kinda odd to me.

Corey Reynolds

Never loved Nashville but enjoyed your discussion. McCabe & Mrs Miller is an all-time great film about America.

Barton Dudlick

this theme song fucking rules

Eon Gattignolo

It’s when your mom goes down on me in a theater

Chris T

A Satoshi Kon ep

Chris T

It's the American way--living life through films

Thomas Carroll

Amazing films

Jonathan lees

Still not sure what movie mindset is

William

I love this series so much!! If I wasn't already a gray wolf I would subscribe to this podcast...I'm glad we're a socialist here because I would pay more for the joy you two, and sometimes three are giving me

Aaron Scott

The Player, Long Goodbye, 3 Women are the key Altmans

Jon Spiegler

You did not have the courage to review A Prairie Home Companion, Popeye, Brewster McCloud yourselves or Gosford Park with Felix specifically. Shame on you. Also great episode

Nick Muscatiello

Altman is a real blind spot in my movie watching. Somehow I’ve never gotten into his films. I’m trying again thanks to this episode.

Jim McKenna

You can live in the Popeye town Will. Malta where they filmed left the sets up and turned it into tourist attraction. https://popeyemalta.com/

Ross McWilliams

Classic Anime? Akira, Patlabor, etc.

M.R. Alchemist

Is that all there is, a few guys laughing at each other?

Dennis Claxton

I will always cry when Barbara Harris picks up the mic

JD

the more I think about it the more I feel like most movies are just Hollywood critiquing/ogling itself.

Doug Cartel

Americans love to describe themselves, and be described by others, as 'relentlessly optimistic', and so if you start talking about the bad shit, it doesn't matter if you already talked up the good shit, you're just a 'cynic' for even mentioning the bad shit. So much of the public dialogue I see where people argue with each other is predicated on this idea that mere mention of a thing is endorsement of it, and I think that comes from that American brain virus that makes us avoid even thinking about 'the bad shit'. It's doesn't allow for nuance, just Manichaen warfare between normies.

Doug Cartel

I love this cast so much.

Adam Skorupskas

YAYY

MoriBones

Sorry forgot to add to description here. Just posted full schedule for back half of series, but next week is 80’s Clint Eastwood with Sudden Impact (1983) & Tightrope (1984)

Chapo Trap House

Did everyone just decide to start calling him Ned Beety? Growing up in the 1970s, it was Ned Baytee... and that's the way it's pronounced in the opening sequence of the movie Will mentioned. So, I just youtubed clips to track the pronunciation change, right to the point where CBS News announced the death of Ned Beety... and now I feel ashamed. Thank you, Chapo Trap House.

Of course

OMG MORE ALTMAN PLEASE NEVER GIT ENOUGH. Love all the 70s ones but recently rewatched Kansas City which is amazing with Belafonte. Other underrated 90s ones are Dr T & Gingerbread Man. Also loved the deep cut adaptations Come back to the five and dime and Streamers. Streamers, man.

JD

What will the next ep cover? I’m trying to stay watched up

Patrick Clark Dycus

two of my all time favorites :) cant wait!

Alexander Fuchs

LET'S GOOOO

Erik Ruiz


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